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The response to this post makes me somewhat surprised. There are thousands of similar offers on the Internet. Most of them do work – for some people sometimes. What makes this so interesting?

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How to Use Law of Attraction / The Law of Attraction and yoga
« on: December 09, 2012, 11:44:47 PM »
Wanting our wishes fulfilled
These last years, both the law of attraction and yoga has become really popular. Everybody wants to feel better. And we want our wishes fulfilled.

What we want differs a lot, of course. It may be a successful career, more money, a new sports car, a bigger house, the partner of our dreams, or that former lover back into our lives. Sometimes we feel out of alignment or even desperate and ready to try anything. Then considering what's out there, the law of attraction is a really good choice.

However, desperation is not a good place to come from if you want to realize your desires with the law of attraction. Therefore, it’s no surprise that this does not always work. I suppose we have all experienced a bit of that!

Still, it is strongly maintained that the law of attraction actually do work. It works continually all the time and with no exceptions. If desperation is what we ask for – desperation is what we will get! But how do we avoid this?
When looking more closely at the law of attraction, I realized it’s indeed strongly related to some aspects of the karmic law often used as theoretical basic for yogic exercises (karma yoga). So, how do we avoid bad karma?

Karma and the law of attraction (LOA) in theory
Yogis often claim that each and one of our thoughts has an impact on the rest of the universe. Wow! Then, what goes around comes around. So what we get back from the universe is experiences similar to what we think about. Does this sound familiar? Actually, it’s really similar to the basic ideas behind the law of attraction, i.e. that we attract what we believe in or, to be more formal, that which is similar to what we think about. Maybe this is only the same idea dressed in other words? The words may differ because the traditions of yoga and the tradition of fulfillment of desires differ.

We may conclude that we should try to keep ourselves happy and only think of good things, because if we do, only good things should come our way. However, this may be somewhat oversimplifying as we actually do attract with all that goes on in our minds 24/7.

It’s impossible for us as humans to control all our conscious thoughts all day. And what about our unconscious thoughts? Of them we are not even aware. And what about the thoughts that passes through our minds when we are asleep in the night? Then we have even less control, although it is maintained that programming the mind with visualizations and affirmations just before falling asleep may be a useful tool.

Keeping up a face of happiness when we do not feel happy inside may also not always work. In fact, this may even be unhealthy, if taken to the extreme. The feelings that we have we should accept – and actually experience to their full extent. (This is actually a yogic practice called pratyahara.) Still, if we are determent we are able to accomplish a lot.

So, how do we go about to realize our desires with the karmic law and the law of attraction (LOA)?
On basis of what is said above, it should be possible to arrive at some useful conclusions regarding how to go about to actually have our true desires – and not only desperation – manifested in our everyday lives. It is obvious that the aim of the law of attraction differs from that of yoga. Therefore, the practical conclusions based on these philosophies also differ. The law of attraction aims at wishes coming true.

Most of the popular law of attraction authors focuses on acquiring material assets, such as money, houses or sports cars. The yogic view is not materialistic but spiritual. It is more about accepting what comes your way than about fulfillment of wishes. However, getting happier is a common goal. And of course, if you accomplish this with the help of yogic exercises, the law of attraction may give you a better life – happy thoughts attract more happiness.

Law of attraction and yoga practices
The methods used in yoga and law of attraction also differ. The practice of the law of attraction is dominated by visualizations and affirmations, which are to be repeated once or twice a day or even more often than that. These are exercises aimed at the realization of desires.

Such methods are a part of the yogic tradition also. In yogic practices you often just make a decision, utter it as a so-called sankalpa, often but not necessarily in a meditative state, and then you let it rest – let go you may say. However, in yoga these methods are not considered as the most important.

In law of attraction you should then also practice “positive thinking” and let go of negative emotions and limiting beliefs. However, if you feel really bad, positivity does not come naturally. Here the law of attraction advisors often appears to be reaching in the dark. The law of attraction doesn’t traditionally provide any specific therapeutic methods, it appears. Instead the practitioners tend to pick up on popular methods, such as ETP, without knowing so much about their therapeutic value in the long run.

In yoga on the other hand, most methods are actually therapeutic methods, i.e meditations and other exercises working with the yogic chakras. And many of these methods have been put to a test for thousands of years. And they have proven to work. So, why don’t use these methods to feel better even if we practice the law of attraction.

How the law of attraction and yoga handles healing and limiting beliefs
I believe yoga has a very significant advantage before the law of attraction when it comes to healing and dealing with limiting beliefs. When using the law of attraction, we focus on one desire, thus activating all the suppressed emotions, limiting beliefs, thought patterns etcetera related to that desire. Some of these we may not just be ready to give up yet. This may turn us upside down and make us feel desperate. Then manifestation will not occur or it will be a painful process.

Yoga on the other hand is relying on the inherent healing power of the body and mind instead. The healing process will proceed in the smoothest and most natural way. What is “on the top” and the easiest to release will go first. Then will follow what is revealed when that first layer is removed. So it will proceed in a natural way. This will take us faster to the goal of being happy, I believe.

Conclusion
From the above, the practical conclusions should be that we should use the yogic methods to make us healthy and feel better. This is what yoga and meditation is best at. Then we could use the law of attraction methods to realize our desires to feel even better.

Read more:
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www.yogapov.com

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Law of Attraction for Relationship / Re: back on forum but confused lol
« on: December 09, 2012, 11:15:49 PM »
This is really easy. Just focus your thoughts on one or more other women. Think of all their wonderful qualities.

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Law of Attraction for Wealth / Re: Let's play the prosperity game!
« on: October 28, 2012, 02:00:33 PM »
Wouldn't the result of this exercise just be that you buy the things you want? :)

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"it's called being in dispair like on the emotional scale.And remember it's too big a jump to go back to joy and love so we have to go to rage sometimes,."

It's from Abraham, I guess? Actually, I never understood this! Why should we be "stuck" with one emotion, or one type of emotions or at one point at the emotional scale? When feeling bad, in grief of whatever, I am rather on an emotional roller coaster. I am never stuck with one feeling, rather going up and down the emotional scale extremely fast. Sometimes I feel very low, but the next minute I may feel very high. Then I am not limited to go “just a little bit higher”. No, I can choose to focus on the best emotions that come up instead.

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Law of Attraction Lounge / Re: So Disappointed
« on: October 09, 2012, 10:17:18 AM »
Hmmm... I also understand being upset. Still, to me love is a matter of the heart, not a matter of the brain... Maybe it’s because I am a man: in my experience women tend to reason more rationally about love than I would ever be able to do. AND true love IS hard to find. AND could/should you really impose such a rule on your best friend: you are not allowed to fall in love with my ex?? I do understand the emotions, but not the betrayal and bitch part. If you fall in love, what can you do?

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Law of Attraction for Wealth / How to deal with disappointment
« on: October 07, 2012, 11:35:19 PM »

I am a man used to get what I want. I just decide what I want and then I go for it. Still, the goals do not make me all satisfied. There is always something more to wish for! So I reach a goal and then I decide to go for another one. Not even when I reached the goal of blissful living i was satisfied. I decided that I wanted some action instead.

There are two major forms of goals; goals that I reach by my actions, which I control and goals that I visualize and thus attract. LOA works well in most parts of my life. Still I need to keep these two types of goals apart.

The goals which I achieve with my actions are often very precise and have a well-defined time table. This is not a problem, because their realization is only depending on my own actions. These goals are not related to the results. The goals I attract with the help of the LOA are very different. I decide what I want, I use different techniques for visualization and mental programming, and then I just wait for the universe to give it to me. I try to leave the details as open as possible and I also leave the time table for the universe to decide. Patience is often a good thing.

A few years ago I started to make a lot of money. That was a result of some spiritual exercises that made me feel better (that is private and I will not speak of it here). So I decided to improve my earnings a lot, as I realized this was possible. To accomplish this I hired a coach. About one and a half year ago she advised me to set up some goals which did not consider the differences between the above two types of goals. In principle I had to decide on the earning each month for a long period of time. This wasn’t realistic from the start, because the assignments I get are often rather big and are seldom invoiced on a monthly basis. She said this was okay. Still it didn’t work. Actually it not only didn’t work. The result was almost catastrophic.

Having decided on goals that did not become true was a new and terrible experience. After a few months I stopped making money and since then I haven’t reached half the incomes I had before I hired that coach. I got so disappointed I got kind of depressed. I stopped focusing on making money and started focusing on other aspects of my life instead. Making money was never problematic before, but nowadays it is. And now I am trying to get back to this area of my life and make a lot of progress. But this disappointment still works as an obstacle.

Any helpful input or advice would be most appreciated!

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Law of Attraction for Relationship / Re: non-LOA relationship books
« on: July 15, 2012, 01:53:03 PM »
That last sentence was not meant as criticism of you reading those books. As I wrote, they may provide valuable information about how things and people COULD be.

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Law of Attraction for Relationship / Re: non-LOA relationship books
« on: July 15, 2012, 12:04:13 PM »
Such books are kind of funny! People are soo different! Information about how things and people COULD be may be helpful. But why have a lot of presuppositions regarding how things should be? Those are mainly limiting beliefs. And why try to make other people believe in those presuppositions? I for one love clingy and supportive women! If you cannot find the answer in your own heart, how can you expect fo find it in a book?

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Well, if you have focused on that phone call as you say, it’s no surprise that phone call is what you got! I believe we get what we focus on all the time. But it's not always easy to focus on the right thing. About a week ago, the thought passed my mind that I hoped I would not get a flat tire on my car. I had not thought of that possibility, nor had a flat tire, for many years, but now I did and guess what happened the next day? And the tiers were new high quality tiers!! About a year ago I tried to attract a private limousine with a private driver, just for the fun of it. Then I went for a holiday trip to an island in the south; and guess what the taxi cars that always drove me on that island looked like? If we are able to focus on the things we want – instead of for instance worry about not getting them – we will have them. But that is not always so easy. That is especially true when it comes to matters of the heart, where strong and conflicting feelings are always involved. I believe it works best when we can just relax and dream about whatever positive thoughts about things and people that come in our mind. The best mindset is like “Wow! That looks awesome! I would like that!” When we want something urgently, it often appears to be more difficult. It’s like we have to transform ourselves – get rid of the limiting beliefs – before we can have what we want. And that process of transformation is not always easy and fun. There are limiting beliefs here of course, but almost everybody seems to have them, and it’s not easy to tell how to deal with them. However, what I wanted to say is that during this process of transformation we tend to proceed in steps, allowing us to experience things associated w the goal, rather than the goal itself – such as a telephone call that seems to come from the right person – before we can allow ourselves to experience the goal. So, you are most likely on the right track, and if it hurts it’s only normal.

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What Are You attracting Today? / Wow! This works!
« on: January 06, 2012, 05:34:24 PM »
I am amazed by the results from a way of programming my mind that I am currently learning. It is comparatively old and I didn’t know that it was actually so similar to the LOA. Just the other day I programmed for a person to be happier and less depressed. The next day that person came up with a number of ideas and started on a plan for how to achieve exactly that. I programmed for more sex and when I went to bed the next evening I discovered a woman in my bed. I have also planned for a few other things, of which I haven’t seen any proofs yet (that will most likely take some time), but I will let you know if this continues to work. 

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So, why don't you just become 20 years old - and stay that way forever - and in the same time become a queen and live in a royal castle? ;) Of course we have limiting beliefs - more than we will ever understand. Basically: we ARE limiting beliefs! And of course we have to do something about the limiting beliefs to change our lives.

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"OK, let's put aside the hatred. But you do agree that if I want my concept to be true, and want to follow it fully, and everything I do to be consistent with it, I must reject other concepts (not the people, but the concepts)?"
 
Yes, but the problem is when you focus on what you want and make it a concep and a label, the other side of the coin follows too. And when rejecting other conpects, you also make them manifest in you life.
 
For the same reason, negative labels are not as bad as they may seem at first, beacuse they make you focus on what you want instead, which makes that manifest in your life, which is a good thing.

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UpLOAding: Sorry, I don't know what education you have, e.g. if you have any NLP education, so I don't really know what is missing. However, how we perceive the world is to a great extent decided by our presuppositions rather than the sensory input. We perceive only individual situations, but we tend to conceptualise them, make generalisations and distort & ignore the sensory input to make it fit into and thus verify the presuppositions we have regarding reality.
 
For instance, you state regarding what you call "promiscuous people": "I hate them because the crimes of heart they commit (cheating, breaking hearts, etc.) are worse than murder and rape". That is not something that you know from your own experience. You may have experiences of or have heard of some occasions where this is true (or seems true to you), but you can most likely not perceive the whole picture even in those situations. As far as you know, these people may have very good reasons to act as they do. And you cannot know that your interpretation is correct in any other situation. So, this is only your interpretation.
 
Consequently, you choose to get upset - to even feel hate - about something that - as far as you know - may only be true in your imagination. It would be very easy to list at least a thousand other things to do, that are much more fun than hating people only because of an idea.

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UpLOAding: Sorry but you are not only misunderstanding the concept, you are also staying inside your box of thinking in terms of labels. You are starting out with a label ("all-kill-all neighborhood") instead of with the reality and then reasoning about how you should handle the world as labelled rather than the world as it is. In reality there is no "all-kill-all neighborhood", but only the sensory input that made you label an unspecified place like that and those are what you need to get back to if you want to perceive the world as it is instead of as you labelled it.

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