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Hello Everyone

I am here today sharing with you my success. I broke up with my woman and I attracted her back. I been using LOA since I was a kid, my mother thought me since I was little, but when I study abroad, I start to lost my focus on LOA and start to live based on negativity. A month a go when I start to remember the concept of LOA, I started to use it in my life. And this is what it get me, my lover back !

My woman is a woman with a stone heart, when she said it's over, it means it's over. I was being so negative about the whole thing until I found LOA, i started to read the thread here in this forum, Thank you to Believing Love, Edge, I love Rainbows, IronUr, who contribute a lot of good subject on LOA. I owe my life to all of you. I started to do Alpha state to visualize things, When I first went to Alpha State, I visualize I meet my other me, I saw him crying in the dark, feeling so lonely and kept blaming himself for what happen. I came to him and I said to him, I am sorry for everything, I forgive you, I love you. I kept saying that over and over until I feel enough. I remember it took me about an hour in meditation state. I feel good afterwards. I did that for 3 days, and the results was tremendous. I felt very light and I start to see changes in my life, I start to smile again, I no longer blame my self for the break up, I no longer feel pain in my chest everytime I think of the event. I feel good about my self. That is when I start to go to alpha and imagine my self fixing the situation with my woman. I know it might be impossible for me to do it by that time, but I believe inside that it's possible for me. I start to see things from a different state, I start to see her as a loving person who fell in love with me who is charming and loving her with all my heart. It took me 3 weeks to make this fall into the right place. Out of the blue today, she wrote me an email. She asked me how am I doing. I replied her and I told her I am fine. What surprise me is her next reply, She told me that she misses me and she can't stop thinking about me. She said that she probably made the biggest mistake in her life by leaving me. I can't believe my eyes when I read it. This is the day that I been living in my meditation and it comes to reality.

People, Dont give up on your desire !!!!

Hi, I'm new here but I hope you don't mind my 2 cents.

What I would suggest is limited, pressure free contact at the same time you are working on yourself.  Give her space without completely cutting yourself off from her.  Don't make all of your contact with her about you, how you feel, what you want, etc.  You said she is going through a lot and it seems you are sending her a lot of messages telling her you love her even though she's clearly stated she isn't ready to be in a relationship right now.  That doesn't mean she won't want a relationship with you at some point, just accept what she is telling you for the time being and don't pressure her about it anymore.  She knows you love her, you don't have to keep saying it.  She seems to be reacting well to it all so far (I know you don't think so, but the fact that she is willing to be in contact at all is good!) but if you persist with all of the declarations of feelings and "relationship" stuff you could end up pushing her away.

Keep any contact with her lighthearted and fun.  If you come across a video or article that would make her smile, send it to her.  If you can think of things you can say or send her that remind her of the good times you shared even better.  Again, don't be a pest about it.  And don't send her anything out of neediness or desperation for contact but rather simply because you want to make her feel good.  Don't put so much emphasis to how or when she replies to you.  Take it in stride and most importantly continue to work on yourself (I know you've been told that a million times, that's because that is what is most important here!)  And then once you both are in a good place you can make a serious effort to pursue a relationship.

Good luck!


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Actually I think OneTwo understands the situation very well. Because really that’s how it comes across when you read his post and his clarification afterwards.

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Boy, by the time I'm done with you, you are going to HATE me for all the Harsh I serve up...

OneTwo should appreciate your tough love, Calm.  You have offered him very valuable advice and perspective on his situation.  xo

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Well, that "romantic interest" she may have had?  He just ruined it by showing that A. he can't make up his mind, B. he wants his cake and eat it too, C. he's a cheat and D. he's overly aggressive.

Boy, by the time I'm done with you, you are going to HATE me for all the Harsh I serve up...

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Hmm....okay.  Once again, I'm going to get a  little harsh with you:

Let me explain a little something to you about women, my good sir....

Firstly, we ALWAYS feel guilt in situations such as this because, even when we know it's NOT our fault, we're pretty convinced we must have done SOMETHING to make it happen, to make this person think there was a possibility or, even worse, to make a guy we thought of as a friend think that we are the type of women he could cheat with.

"Did i say something once?" "Did he mistake my friendliness for flirting?" "Did I smile too often?" 

Every women has had these thoughts go through her mind more than once if she's lived long enough and had enough life experience with men. 

What difference does it make if she knew that he was in a relationship?  Nothing you said tells me that she wanted to be involved with the guy.  So he was merely a friend with a girlfriend. Big deal. 

Being disappointed in this guy, doesn't mean she had/has romantic aspirations for him.  It means that, once again, another woman has been let down by another man claiming to be her friend - when it turns out he just wanted to sleep with her.  I cannot even begin to tell you what a MASSIVE let-down that is for a woman.  We lose a friend we've no doubt been close too AND we blame ourselves because....we must have done " something" to lead him on, right?

Never mind that you just told us that he basically harassed and forced himself upon her!

So you'll just have to excuse her if the poor girl decided to hibernate for a while.  It's what some of us do.

You're feeling "hurt" because of a facebook post, and she's just done telling you that some male pushed her up against a wall, grabbed her ass and tried to forcibly kiss her, against her wishes.

Really??  How about a  little empathy for your girl?  Did you get angry at him?  Did you tell her how angry you were at him for doing that?  Or did you just whine about how hurt YOU were, and lay all your emotional crap on her while she's trying to  deal with a shitty situation that she shared with you?

And let me tell you about our Facebook posts.  Yes, we do wish our male friends would make up their minds - Be our FRIEND or step off.  Make a move - a serious one - or step off.  We hate men who piss fart around like they're bloody Hamlet. And our specific posts can turn into something fairly general when we rant and rail against the world.

And, from personal experience, there is nothing quite as disconcerting as having a male FRIEND suddenly make an unwanted move on you.  It is beyond uncomfortable and it ends friendships.  I've ended friendships over it, and never looked back.

This guy that you seem so worried about has "forced" himself right out of her life.  And if he hasn't, then she's an idiot - and you don't want her.

So - you're right.  This was a strange update - but it wasn't yours, it was hers. 

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The lesson I learned, and have in the past since I did get my other Ex back before. Is that you need to commit to one or the other. It’s the only way to actually make the situation better for yourself.

I needed to hear this, thanks.  I think I am in that weird in between state you are talking about.  I've told myself I've given up, but I still think about him all the time.  It's more detached for sure, but not entirely yet.  I'm thinking about moving back to my home state, far away from him.  Maybe that will seal the deal?

I don't think you're an asshole either lol.  I think you tell it like it is and it's not always what people want to hear.

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Oh brandygrandy- really? i love mr. bright's posts. they do sometimes go against LOA and AH but his opinion is so solid. Mr. bright and excel are my 2 fav on this forum. he might come across a bit harsh sometimes but really he knows what he is talking about.
even though we tease eachother here; i am on his side this time  :P

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Ok I got word through the grapevine that my post was a little assholeish… so I just wanted to fully explain what I meant and then I will not bring it up again. Since this post is already totally de-railed as is no need to keep it going.

Ok my problem was this, I wanted my ex back and couldn’t make it happen with effort. So I started to go NC because I was hoping it would give her the kick in the pants to make a move towards me. So that didn’t happen. Then I decided to RS, and do other things people talk about on here. But that only made me miss her more, or at least think about it endlessly. Then I said ok, what If I detach a little more… ok im going to start dating. So I did, and it was good but I would still think about her and wonder what if. Now that relationship essentially went into shit, since I made everything more complicated. I had a great person I was with, but was afraid to fully commit because what if my ex came back. So now I went fully circle and back to where I started in a sense.

So the point I am trying to make here, is don’t make the same mistake I did. I am not judging anyone or trying to make anyone feel like shit … I am just saying learn from my mistakes and make better choices than I did.

The lesson I learned, and have in the past since I did get my other Ex back before. Is that you need to commit to one or the other. It’s the only way to actually make the situation better for yourself.

I made the mistake (like some people) of saying ok I will let go to a point and then she will come back… but that’s still not detaching. Its like holding on a little string of hope, hoping that something comes out of it in the end.

I know people on here say ok I am going to NC, then take some time to feel better and then when I don’t care I will contact them again. But lets be real, you do care, I cared. You know a part of you will be hurt and disappointed if they have a negative reacting, because really if you didn’t really care you wouldn’t even contact them in the first place.

Anyways that’s my point and story… you guys will do what you want… but I just want to make it clear I want everyone to have success on here.. I just don’t like to BS but would rather talk from my own personal experience and hope it helps someone else.
I'm just going to tell everyone my plan lol because I feel like it. But I think I'm going to do the whole NC thing too, because I really can't be in a relationship right now since I'm so hung up on LW and I'm a mess...plus I have some very important exams coming up and I don't want to ruin my future. So I'm going to not answer to her anymore and not let her dictate our relationship. Her bday is in August and I'm just going to write her a card just simply saying happy bday, hope you're well, love always, SR. Hopefully by then I will have cleared up some negative emotions and the desperation so then I can initiate contact again on a positive note (her bday). Anyways, that's my plan. Sorry onetwothreefour for barging in on your post!

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thats the same thing i was also saying..heal ourselves first..be detached..and so detached that their actions don;t bother us..and then try..and who knows ..once we become detached,we may not even need to try..they would reach upto us..which is seen in most of the stories here..or else as an inspired action we may reach upto them ..and things would become right...all this can happen only once we are detached or are completely over that person..

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daydreamer - maybe I read it wrong, but that's not what Brightside said at all.  He's criticizing "No Contact" and saying not to do it.

And MY reason for NC was to give myself some peace of mind.  That was it.

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Well I am going to address both your posts, this is just a debate anyways so there is no need to get upset or try to push your own beliefs on others… just my opinion here that’s all I’m saying.

First him being her friend is not the answer or the advice I am giving. He needs to be clear that he wants to fix the relationship, not friendship, and go for that. Being stuck in friendzone is crap, and ive been there, all you are doing is helping the other person feel less guilty for dumping you… while they are out looking for someone else. So no, that is definitely not the answer here.

Second you went NC, but are still wanting to be with him. Granted I don’t blame you since he is seeing someone else, and I wouldn’t want to be in that mix anyways. But you are now in this mode of waiting for him to make a choice, between you or her.  So you removed yourself from the situation, but are still doing
RS but not putting any action behind it.

So to sum up my point which I think you guys actually helped me make :P. Being in between, sitting on the fence waiting… is not the answer and won’t work. You pick one or the other, you go for it and try to make it work or you leave it alone and move on.

I can tell you from my own experience, and if you want look at success stories on here. I was able to get my Ex back by totally and absolutely going for it…no friends, no bullshit.. just doing everything I could. I also made the mistake of so many other people on here, waiting and hoping something will change… and it didn’t it only made other parts of my life worse because I wasn’t doing anything to address the issue.

If you are jobless, you don’t sit at home waiting for a job to find you. If your hungry you don’t sit infront of the stove for a meal to just appear. Its same in this sense, you want to be with someone… you want to be in a relationship. Then go out and make it happen.

The worst that can happen is you actually realize you are better then this and find someone else that actually cares about you…. And realistically that’s not such a bad end result anyways.

In any case, hope I didn’t offend anyone … I am just trying to make a clear point.


Exactly Mr Brightside! What you are saying here is exactly the point of NC!
We do NC to put an end to the pointless friendship, the desperate waiting around.
We do it to heal ourself from the pain, to gain confidence!
Because after we manage by ourselves, after we realise our worth, there will be a time when we DO chose to go after our ex, we will know what we are doing.
I think everyone will agree we are in no state of going out and getting them back when we still hurt at the thought of our ex. It just makes us look desperate.
So, this NC is like taking a step back before launching ourselves-It makes us go further.
Either we get our ex back or we are too happy to care.
That's the great thing.
I agree, we can't wait around waiting forever, we need to take action. But we need time to make that action effective.
daydreamer: THANK YOU for your post. I actually feel as though I'm in your position somewhat with my girl. Although she's single, I still believe we're meant to be together eventually and once I let go, the Universe will deliver. I know I'm not ready for a relationship right now...I've been told that by a few of my friends too. So I'm just going to heal myself first and try the "self love" thing and work on myself till I have her back in my life :) Thanks again for that inspiring post...really made my day.
You're welcome SR :)
Continue with that awesome attitude! Keep loving yourself and you will be so amazing and she won't be able to stay away any more.
I'm glad I helped you :)

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Sorry, Mr. B - but I'm not waiting for my Love to do anything or make any decision.  I already stated my only reason for NC.

And, as my post clearly states, NC is a decision that can only be made dependent on one's own personal situation, feelings and reactions.

I'm not sure how wolf and myself stating our own opinions, as you have, is pushing our beliefs on others.  In fact, I've done the opposite and told onetwo that the decision can only be his.

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Well I am going to address both your posts, this is just a debate anyways so there is no need to get upset or try to push your own beliefs on others… just my opinion here that’s all I’m saying.

First him being her friend is not the answer or the advice I am giving. He needs to be clear that he wants to fix the relationship, not friendship, and go for that. Being stuck in friendzone is crap, and ive been there, all you are doing is helping the other person feel less guilty for dumping you… while they are out looking for someone else. So no, that is definitely not the answer here.

Second you went NC, but are still wanting to be with him. Granted I don’t blame you since he is seeing someone else, and I wouldn’t want to be in that mix anyways. But you are now in this mode of waiting for him to make a choice, between you or her.  So you removed yourself from the situation, but are still doing
RS but not putting any action behind it.

So to sum up my point which I think you guys actually helped me make :P. Being in between, sitting on the fence waiting… is not the answer and won’t work. You pick one or the other, you go for it and try to make it work or you leave it alone and move on.

I can tell you from my own experience, and if you want look at success stories on here. I was able to get my Ex back by totally and absolutely going for it…no friends, no bullshit.. just doing everything I could. I also made the mistake of so many other people on here, waiting and hoping something will change… and it didn’t it only made other parts of my life worse because I wasn’t doing anything to address the issue.

If you are jobless, you don’t sit at home waiting for a job to find you. If your hungry you don’t sit infront of the stove for a meal to just appear. Its same in this sense, you want to be with someone… you want to be in a relationship. Then go out and make it happen.

The worst that can happen is you actually realize you are better then this and find someone else that actually cares about you…. And realistically that’s not such a bad end result anyways.

In any case, hope I didn’t offend anyone … I am just trying to make a clear point.

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