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How does karma manifest itself, however?

I'm in a position where I believe myself to be someone's nemesis. I'm biding my time and sitting around, waiting - and hoping - that they'll prove me wrong, that they'll do something good or positive. But if they don't, and I can be their bad karma manifested, where does that leave me? If, as you say, everyone who treats people badly get their 'just desserts,' where does that leave folk like me who are maybe placed to give them their bad karma? Am I in line for a kicking, too?

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Hi VC,

              So good to hear your story - a hearty congratulations, lovely!

I'm so pleased that you've attained your desire and also, that your story outlines the importance of getting straight in yourself, by yourself, first. I think that's a really vital lesson for people who come here, wanting what you wanted (and have now got!)

Cheers and love

Tins

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Have you ever heard of - or read - Neville Goddard? What he says, and it can relate to anything, is that when you're falling asleep at night, enter into a scene in your mind which implies fulfilment of your wish. So, rather than thinking of wanting to be with her, think of a scene which would imply that AND have great meaning for you, whether that be signing joint Christmas cards or walking down the aisle. Take your mind to being with  her and beyond - then cast your eye back. Create a scene so vivid in your mind that it cannot help but be brought into fruition - that's what he says, anyway.

Give it a go

Cheers

Tins

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there may be other innocent parties involved who's needs must be taken into account.

Is there a child involved? If so, then it can make things a lot harder. I was talking to a friend last night who's in a bad marriage but he doesn't feel that he can leave because of his daughter. However, if there isn't then it's easier. I've sometimes tried to hang on even though I've wanted out because hurting people isn't 'nice,' but nor is stringing someone along just to assuage your guilt. That may sound heartless and I know that break-ups aren't easy to come to terms with, even if you're the one doing the dumping, but putting aside the risk that you might meet them on here in their attempts to get you back, the kindest thing is to couch your lack of love in the nicest possible terms - I've had, 'I haven't fallen for you,' which was quite gentle - give no scope for hope (ie, being 'friends,') and honour what you've said. Mixed messages are an absolute bastard and can prolong the agony long after the event.

In LOA terms, you can't be passive, but you can decide what you want (which you have) and take inspired action (which you're getting your way up to doing, no?)

Cheers

Tins

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Hmm, to I Love Rainbows, no, I didn't really know that. Tell me more....

But it's turned out that he's a married manic-depressive. No offence to anyone who's manically depressed or married but I've placed him back in the 'friend' box. He's great, but I suppose that with attracting, you've got to be specific, haven't you? We're still talking, all is okay. I didn't know he was married as we met through Facebook where, I suppose, people can be a little more selective with what they put up, but no damage done. A hazy desire to meet someone educated, good-looking and shaggable turned up trumps but with a few too many strings attached

Anyway, I've since met someone else! we'd known each other before but met more this weekend as we were attending the funeral of a mutual friend. I was worried about how I'd cope with another funeral so soon after my dad's, but it turned out that I did okay. He is lovely, a bit shy, but we talked for about 2 hours before our respective trains left and in terms of the trains, he went to the information office to ask if either his or my train (we were travelling to different cities) corresponded with the other; ie, could we sit on a train together for a bit, please? Turns out that the timetables were against us but we parted with a kiss and he's invited me to his city for the weekend.

So, a/ could I have girlish squeals of delight/agreement about how much he likes me? and b/ I Love Rainbows - could you write me one of your wonderful, long and intelligent posts filled with wisdom (and You Tube videos) about how not to doubt and just enjoy and enjoy and enjoy.... ? 


Cheers

Tins

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Hi All,

          Still finding life difficult since dad's death but one thing that has brightened me up is a guy, a friend of mine, being wonderful, empathetic and supportive. I also fancy him rotten. Tonight, he's sent me a couple of songs and was wondering if anyone would like to throw a brief interpretation my way? Full of lines like - I've been waiting a long time/to meet someone like you, or, keep me close/keep me tight/just keep me in mind.

I can guess but it would be lovely to have some girlish enthusiasm to share my thoughts. not very LOA, I know, but I've also attracted him quite specifically, so this might be something!

Cheers

Tins

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Yep, I was.

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With the ex who propelled me to here, who I tried to get back (but eventually made the decision not to for various reasons), I could do 4 or 5 sessions of RS and have him contact me, with affection. I'm tempted to try it again, as proof for this thread, but proof can be a one-time event, I think. I remember writing in a notebook that I kept at the time, 'XXXX contacted me! Keep up with RS 'cause IT WORKS.'

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@ Mollys_Love - All these things are subjective, maybe that's the problem. What one person will accept as proof or success or failure vary wildly, I'd suspect. Our baselines are different, so are our expectations. And as for the individual stories, that's a whole new world of differentness. Now, I've never read a story that's said,

'My ex left me and I was distraught. I did RS for x weeks/months and they came back, fell in love with me and we all lived happily after.'

That, to ME, would be success and proof. But if I changed what I wanted, say, and made it a phone call or e-mail, on which, as adults, we could potentially build, then that might be seen as success in someone else's eyes.

The difficulty with this stuff is that there are no absolutes, but in 'real life,' there are few absolutes, too; I refer you to the famous quote about death and taxes. There are people on here who've had great results when they've 'let go.' Others who've kept up the visualising and active believing in order to get what they've wanted. So that perhaps is proof enough that whatever is at work here - if you still believe there is - varies according to the individual.

Just personal journeys, really. I hope you find your way

Cheers

Tins

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I'm in a similar situation, though am currently off work after my dad's death. For me, I want to do something different to my job that I'm currently in, but that's because I feel motivated to do that out of the shock of his passing, perhaps. And what I do want to go and do - work on an animal sanctuary in Africa followed by a lot of photography work and travel - is something which I've always harbored a dream to go and do. But, like I must not do anything rash - I've given myself to the end of next March to see whether my job really is a bad fit - I suggest that you give yourself a period of time in which to settle down, get comfortable with however much of it you can, perhaps store up some savings and then a date in the diary (want to try end of March with me?) when you sit down and go, 'nope, this isn't working for me,' or perhaps the opposite.

My job also involves a commute on what is widely considered to be the UK's shittest motorway; about 90 minutes each way so you have my sympathy!

I suppose too that although things (jobs, people) can seem perfect on paper, they're often not in reality, so view this as an opportunity to get clear (even clearer!) on what you DO want.

I've had points in my current job - and those previous - where I've thought, 'I just want to quit NOW,' but then a day later, I think, 'thank God I didn't.' I suppose you need to work out what it is that's wrong with the job; is it wrong for you overall or are there just bits of it that aren't right, and bits that you can maybe learn to like in time or appreciate?

Don't do anything rash - there's a lot of maturity, wisdom and cold, hard cash in giving yourself the time to plan an escape.

I say give yourself 6 months, a contingency plan (and fund) and go from there

Tins

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I cannot believe that I manifested my dad's death. That equates to me killing my dad. The way it went was that there were 3 people sitting at the bedside of 1 man who'd had enough and had expressed a wish, several times over, that he wanted to go. How could my will usurp that of my dad's? It was his body to die in, not mine.

I do not believe you can influence everything and everyone. I do not believe you are responsible for everything you see and experience. Maybe I believe that because it relieves me of the 'responsibility,' but rationally - and for my own sanity - I cannot sit here and accept that I, The Great Creator, failed to save my dad's life.

Would anyone else who'd gone through this experience still remain faithful to the belief that they created everything and thus were responsible for the death of a parent? Would you?

I'm calm - but intrigued

Cheers

Tins

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Thank you for the hug - hugs are good!

The video won't play at the moment, so will come back to that later, but our view of our dad was that he wasn't well. And that view was instigated and played out by him - he'd had a mini-stroke, then a further two mini-strokes, all of which terrified him. He was a tall, strong, witty man and the thought of himself being reduced to a wheelchair with someone wiping food from the mouth that he could only now slur words with wasn't something he wanted. He wasn't proactive in seeking help for himself. He had a physio run through some exercises for spinal stenosis that he wouldn't really do, even though I said, 'I'll come round every evening and do them with you.' He wouldn't make baby steps towards a 20 minute walk every day and he didn't really change his diet. He had dentures that he was supposed to wear but didn't, because they were uncomfortable. I could go on and on and on.....but simply, he hated the indignities of ageing, was very frightened that something bigger and more entrenched would happen to him which would incapacitate him, he was proud and hated the loss of dignity.

A neighbour told us recently that dad had said to him, 'I'm ready to go.' And we believe, especially in terms of the manner and way that he died (fell ill on the plane home from a fantastic family holiday) that he almost timed his death, having seen us through this amazing time. Maybe he even held out for the holiday? He was convinced that he would die at a specific age, and was only 8 months past it when he did go.

So, HE wanted to die, even though we didn't want him to, and I believe that when someone wants something, it's difficult for people to change that belief. But additionally, he made it very hard for us to change our own beliefs that he was a strong, healthy man - he refused a lot of help and sometimes when I went round to see him at home, his head would be slumped onto his chest and he'd scarcely know who I was. I believe he created the conditions and the belief in us that he wanted to do, which now comforts us as we believe he had control and the desire to go.

But I would then question the ability of the individual to view someone else's situation and someone else's WILL at work - and change that. Not when they're so determined. I've thought to myself, 'did I kill my dad by not believing in him enough?' But no-one is physically immortal. My dad wanted to go and his will to die was stronger than ours to keep him alive; I believe that while we do create reality, we also have to be careful as to how far we can ascribe that ability to create for other people - my dad's death was primarily his business and his decision; anything else was secondary.

Maybe accepting that death was what he wanted was a very loving act from myself, my mum and my sister. But I don't believe that even if we'd believed fervently contrary to his desires, we'd have kept him from what he wanted; the release from his physical experience and his physical self.

Cheers

Tins

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I'm genuinely interested, though am preparing myself for a possibly rather emotive discussion. Oh, and this posting comes with the caveat that I like it on here and have received much support and friendship. So, I'm aiming at a good, hearty, intellectual discussion - I'm not seeking to undermine beliefs but more to explore....

I've read on here often that EVERYTHING we experience is a reflection of our own energies (I'm paraphrasing) and that NOTHING is a coincidence, even that which occurs with the other people in our lives. So, it appears from that that there would be nothing which happens in our outer, physical world for which we are not responsible.

So, could someone explain to me why my dad died?

Cheers

Tins

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Thank you all for your lovely, thoughtful replies.

I do believe that he still exists in some form, although it's hard to fully believe that though I could search every room, every place on this earth, I'd never find him in the form which I knew, but in time there will be comfort to be gained from understanding that no-one really dies, as long as those who love them keep them alive in their hearts, minds and memories.

It'll be 3 weeks tomorrow, so ridiculously early days, but today, I managed a 3 hour walk followed by a pub tea, so I'm doing my best to return to normal life - work aside; that little baby starts again in a week or so, but no great pressure on myself in that field.

Please keep the love and thoughts coming; if you do pray, squeezing myself, my mum and my sister into your thoughts would be very much appreciated

With love

Tins

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Hi,

      Just under 2 weeks ago, my father died. It was a short illness though he'd been struggling with what age was doing to him for quite some time and was worried about, in particular, a big stroke coming along; he'd had 3 small ones already.

I'm off Facebook, for those who know me from there, and I must admit to struggling with Law of Attraction, Neville Goddard and anything else that says, 'you can have whatever you want.' Frankly, I don't really climb on board with that right now, but maybe time will ease my understanding of what my dad wanted.

Anyway, if you could be so good as to send me any loving thoughts, prayers or just general day-to-day kindness (I can be found loitering on here, I'm sure), then they'd be very much appreciated. I'm doing okay and his funeral was fantastic; I even got up the courage to read a poem for him, but things (feelings, behaviours) are very variable at the moment. I suppose it's only natural but yes, I'm repeating myself now, any kind thoughts would be lovely

Thank you

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