Deep-seated hatred against promiscuous people

[BELE]

"If you truly believe in something, doesn't it automatically mean that you must reject the opposite?"
 
You actually have a point here, because when creating or accepting such a concept as those you are talking about here, you also create the opposite in your life. They are like the two sides of a coin. You cannot have one without the other. Therefore, my best advice is; don't make concepts of your reality; just perceive it as it is (i.e. as it comes to you through your senses). Why be upset about your thoughts? They are just thoughts, aren't they?! 

[UpLOAding]

Therefore, my best advice is; don't make concepts of your reality; just perceive it as it is (i.e. as it comes to you through your senses).

Well, don't you think that's a very passive approach? What about all poor people who were born and grew up in cynical families, received an unpromising education and any other misfortune they had before they ever got to know anything like LOA?
Should they "just perceive it as it is"? Should they just take that life as the only possibility, without rebelling against it (or, dreaming better)?

Why be upset about your thoughts? They are just thoughts, aren't they?! 

For almost no other reason except the LOA-idea that whatever is in our thoughts is what we attract.

In fact, in one period of my life I also was more of the idea that "to each to their own" and "live and let live". But how can you truly believe in anything if you also allow something you don't believe in?

I requote what I wrote to Ginny:
Ginny, you do agree though that your belief in C (quoting you: "Neither the Earth nor the Moon stands still, unless you choose one of them arbitrarily as your point of reference.") excludes the other two beliefs A and B, right?
You, yourself, said that "both A and B are wrong". My message to schenderson22 is that in order to truly believe in anything, it is an inherent requirement that you reject whatever you think is wrong.
Relativism/subjectivism is also one belief about an all-encompassing absolute, thus by itself contraddictory.
("I believe that anything can be true. Including the possibility that nothing is true. Thus... I truly believe in nothing?")

[BELE]

I think here is a misunderstanding. Perceiving the world as it is and dealing with it as such, instead of labelling it and dealing with the labels instead, is a very powerful approach. If you have a problem you just deal with it, instead of taking the whole world into your equation. From the LOA perspective, this is also a very beneficial approach as you do not get stuck with the labels and do not have to live with all the negative things that the back-sides of your labels bring up in your mind (you have written a lot about that).

[UpLOAding]

Hmmm, I think I didn't really understand what you mean by perceiving the world as it is and labeling the world, and how you think the two differently affect the process of "creating/manifesting the world we desire" through LOA.
 
Could you give me an example please (perhaps based on what I wrote)?

EDIT: let me try an example and you tell me whether I understood you correctly.

I grow up in an all-kill-all neighborhood. People need to kill each other in order to survive. One day I discover LOA and think:"Great! Now I can attract plenty of years of life!". Now, the way I understood you, if I "perceive the world as it is", I would assume everything that exists as a matter of fact and consequently feel fulfilled to attract situations in which I am the winner and kill as many enemies as possible, thereby being the one who survives most.

My personal approach in such a situation, would be to "think outside the box" and try to attract something in which e.g. all killers start forgiving each other and make peace and figure out a way to survive without killing each other.
(I apply the same mentality when thinking about relationships. Instead of jumping from one to another, I aim at improving the current one. So far it seems to work, with LOA.)
But in order to do so, I would need to start believing that killing each other is wrong.

Makes sense?

[BELE]

UpLOAding: Sorry but you are not only misunderstanding the concept, you are also staying inside your box of thinking in terms of labels. You are starting out with a label ("all-kill-all neighborhood") instead of with the reality and then reasoning about how you should handle the world as labelled rather than the world as it is. In reality there is no "all-kill-all neighborhood", but only the sensory input that made you label an unspecified place like that and those are what you need to get back to if you want to perceive the world as it is instead of as you labelled it.

[UpLOAding]

Well, please explain... I really don't understand what you're saying (the distinction between reality and labels)
 
Tell me what you mean in terms of what I said.
 
I don't find your last post helpful in understanding you...

[RedYellowBlue]

But why do you hate them so much? I mean, there are people who are worse than promiscuous people. So why hate only the promiscuous? Try blessing them daily before you go to bed. It will work wonders.

[UpLOAding]

RedYellowBlue, the following is what I replied before starting to use LOA and being positive etc.

"I hate them because the crimes of heart they commit (cheating, breaking hearts, etc.) are worse than murder and rape"

[BELE]

UpLOAding: Sorry, I don't know what education you have, e.g. if you have any NLP education, so I don't really know what is missing. However, how we perceive the world is to a great extent decided by our presuppositions rather than the sensory input. We perceive only individual situations, but we tend to conceptualise them, make generalisations and distort & ignore the sensory input to make it fit into and thus verify the presuppositions we have regarding reality.
 
For instance, you state regarding what you call "promiscuous people": "I hate them because the crimes of heart they commit (cheating, breaking hearts, etc.) are worse than murder and rape". That is not something that you know from your own experience. You may have experiences of or have heard of some occasions where this is true (or seems true to you), but you can most likely not perceive the whole picture even in those situations. As far as you know, these people may have very good reasons to act as they do. And you cannot know that your interpretation is correct in any other situation. So, this is only your interpretation.
 
Consequently, you choose to get upset - to even feel hate - about something that - as far as you know - may only be true in your imagination. It would be very easy to list at least a thousand other things to do, that are much more fun than hating people only because of an idea.

[UpLOAding]

OK, now I get it a bit better.
 
OK, let's put aside the hatred. But you do agree that if I want my concept to be true, and want to follow it fully, and everything I do to be consistent with it, I must reject other concepts (not the people, but the concepts)?
 

[Sweet Spirit]

why can't you just hate the sin  not  the sinner ?

[UpLOAding]

why can't you just hate the sin  not  the sinner ?

Maybe because I can't hang or stone the "sin" to death...

Besides jokes, I agree with you. But often an action (the sin) is tied to beliefs ("it is good/ok/fun to sin"), and these beliefs to the people who promote them. So besides the sin, I reject the beliefs leading to such sin and the promotion of such beliefs and sins.

I am over with the hatred now... I'm just discussing about the exclusivity and non-complementarity of certain beliefs/labels/reality-conceptualisations
and the effect of contraddicting conceptualisations on LOA manifestation processes.

[Sweet Spirit]

OH MY GOD!!!!
You Mean you are actually agreeing with me? That's a first!

ya know upLOAding? How could you expect to attract anything positive when you harbored such hatred? Weren't you contradicting yourself? And yes there is only one D NOT 2 D's in the word contradicting.

Sorry if it appears that I am picking on you but I could not resist. 

Anyway, I am glad you are over the hatred. Don't you feel better now?

Peace and Love to ya.

[BELE]

"OK, let's put aside the hatred. But you do agree that if I want my concept to be true, and want to follow it fully, and everything I do to be consistent with it, I must reject other concepts (not the people, but the concepts)?"
 
Yes, but the problem is when you focus on what you want and make it a concep and a label, the other side of the coin follows too. And when rejecting other conpects, you also make them manifest in you life.
 
For the same reason, negative labels are not as bad as they may seem at first, beacuse they make you focus on what you want instead, which makes that manifest in your life, which is a good thing.