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Deep-seated hatred against promiscuous people
« on: December 01, 2010, 07:40:16 AM »
Pretty good days, busy at work and even getting along better with the woman of my dreams =)

However, it's 3:00 AM and I woke up from a terrible nightmare that almost led me to a panic breakdown.

I don't know what the nightmare was, and I don't think it had anything to do with the woman I love, but I know for sure it has to do with the worst enemy of my life: adulterers, cheaters, promiscuous people, and those who generally cannot commit to a relationship.

I once hated them to death - literally. In the sense that I actually was involved in campaigns to introduce death penalty for people who cheat sexually. Over time I realized that they are not Satan's step-children, and many of them are just "lost" and can turn good.
And most importantly, it is quite possible that people have cheated because of circumstances I cannot underststand.

Yet, I think I still fear that such things can hit me and/or the persons I love. Even when I see a film that puts promiscuity in a positive light (e.g. wife cheating on husband) I get very nervous and  feel like wanting to smash objects on the ground. Well yeah I am quite aggressive.

I believe in change, but I also believe that I need to get rid of this impulsive-aggressive hatred. I know that if it were not for LOA and my overall "ideological development", I would be doing seriously harmful things towards these enemies, probably even murder (e.g. by luring them into a country where it is legal to kill promiscuous people).

Ack... I don't even remember what dream it was. Things were going so well until this stupid dream. But it just reminded me of how much I hate and want to destroy such people, wipe them off the planet.

Well, maybe I'll find some relaxation in sleeping again, but hope you have some interesting advice. I know I am very wrong, but I need some "encouragement to change" or "something to conivnce my instincts as well", since my mind already knows that my instincts are wrong :)

Anyway, good night!

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Re: Deep-seated hatred against promiscuous people
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2010, 12:21:16 AM »
Try to remember "like attracts like"  If you have a strong fear of something, it is bound to happen to you or someone close to you.  Work through those feelings.  Being judgmental of others will only bring judgment against you.  If you have difficultly working through the feelings you may want to consider trying EFT.

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Re: Deep-seated hatred against promiscuous people
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2010, 12:23:25 AM »
I saw this post and thought I would share.

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Everything that happens in your life happens for a reason & you & only you are responsible for all of it. You attract that which you believe to be true irrespective of whether it is true or not. You attract people, events & circumstances in your life by your very own thoughts & beliefs.

Every true belief is not just conscious but subconscious and is tied to emotion. A belief is an emotionalized thought. If you closely observe, you will always find that, every human thought & action is either based in ‘love’ or ‘fear’. You either do something for the love of it or for the fear of something happening if it’s not done. Sometimes the emotion of love maybe equated with greed & this maybe more so applicable in the stock market where the only two emotions that prevail are greed & fear – Greed of making more money & the fear of losing money.

Instead of telling GOD how big your FEARS are, start telling your FEARS, how big your GOD is.

Whenever you are faced with a challenge, every choice that you make arises out of one of the only 2 possible emotions that exist – the emotion of love or the emotion of fear.

Love & Fear are 2 of the most POWERFUL EMOTIONS you will ever come across. Love is the MAGIC POTION & Fear is the VENOMOUS POTION!!!

“Fear is the energy which contracts, closes down, draws in, runs, hides, hoards, harms. Love is the energy which expands, opens up, sends out, stays, reveals, shares, heals. Fear wraps our bodies in clothing, love allows us to stand naked. Fear clings to and clutches all that we have, love gives all that we have away. Fear holds close, love holds dear. Fear grasps, love lets go. Fear rankles, love soothes. Fear attacks, love amends.” – Neale Donald Walsch

Learn to recognize & hear that little voice in you. It’s this little voice through which the universe speaks to you. It is your emotional guidance system & acts as radar (GPS) that helps you to steer away from all the hurdles of life.

The sole purpose for which you came on Earth was to experience life in all its glory. If you aren’t experiencing this fullest glory yet, it only means that you are still to accomplish your mission here. And when you experience this glory, you will realize that this mission cannot end as only then, you will truly know the eternal nature of your BEING.

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Re: Deep-seated hatred against promiscuous people
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2010, 05:07:25 AM »
I know, but...
 
I'd like to ask you a question:
If you truly believe in something, doesn't it automatically mean that you must reject the opposite?
 
For example, if you believe in fidelity, marriage and family, shouldn't you clearly delineate and define what it means to be faithful to one's partner?
 
And when we face things that don't fall under such definition, what do we do? How are we supposed to behave when we face something we don't believe in (e.g. people saying that cheating is justifiable, divorce is OK, etc.)?

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Re: Deep-seated hatred against promiscuous people
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2010, 01:45:30 PM »
For example, if you believe in fidelity, marriage and family, shouldn't you clearly delineate and define what it means to be faithful to one's partner?
 
And when we face things that don't fall under such definition, what do we do? How are we supposed to behave when we face something we don't believe in (e.g. people saying that cheating is justifiable, divorce is OK, etc.)?

Focus on what you want, not on what you don't want. The things you turn your attention to are what you will manifest in your life, so if you put a lot of energy (via negativity and hatred) into unfaithfulness and promiscuity, you will manifest more of that in your life (either via your partners or the behaviour you see around you).

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Re: Deep-seated hatred against promiscuous people
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2010, 04:06:15 PM »
Specifically, if I hear my best friends breaking up, should I "focus my attention away" from them?
 
If I hear my parents are considering divorce, should I just stay away from the discussion and wait without doing nothing, without interfering?
 
This is again related to one of my previous questions (How to apply LOA in action, in person, in day-to-day interaction?)
 
If there's a film that praises promiscuity, just switch off the TV?

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Re: Deep-seated hatred against promiscuous people
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2010, 04:16:34 PM »
In the case of your friends and family, offer your love and support. It is not your place to judge (well fine, go ahead and judge if you like, but it won't help anyone).
 
With respect to the film, Yes.

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Re: Deep-seated hatred against promiscuous people
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2010, 12:59:00 AM »
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I'd like to ask you a question:
If you truly believe in something, doesn't it automatically mean that you must reject the opposite?

I agree with Ginny.  Focus on what you DO believe in.  It's what you are most passionate about that is most brought about in your reality.

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For example, if you believe in fidelity, marriage and family, shouldn't you clearly delineate and define what it means to be faithful to one's partner?
  Of course, you can by focusing on the positive.  To be faithful means to be honest with your partner, to only desire your partner, etc.

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And when we face things that don't fall under such definition, what do we do? How are we supposed to behave when we face something we don't believe in (e.g. people saying that cheating is justifiable, divorce is OK, etc.)
  It natural in human nature to want to "fight against" the opposite.  However, what The Secret, LOA and the experts have taught us is to focus on praying and being grateful FOR what we DO believe in.  Does that make sense?

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Specifically, if I hear my best friends breaking up, should I "focus my attention away" from them?
  Like Ginny said, you should be supportive.  You do not know what they are trying to manifest in their lives, nor is up to us to judge.  Judgment is a negative feeling, that only brings more judgment upon us.

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If I hear my parents are considering divorce, should I just stay away from the discussion and wait without doing nothing, without interfering?
  If your parents are getting divorced, ask questions, share your feelings about the situation in a calm manner, but recognize you have ZERO control over what they do.  Joe Vitale discusses in Spiritual Marketing, that MOST if not ALL traumatic events can be looked at in the future as something necessary to improve the lives of those involved.

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If there's a film that praises promiscuity, just switch off the TV?
  There are two ways to look at this.  One, shut off the tv.  Two, while you don't believe in promiscuity, you can at least keep an open mind and listen to why others condone it.  After all, there are people who believe that blacks and whites are not equal.  However, if there was program on TV explaining why they are and someone who strongly believed they aren't watched it with an open mind, they may be persuaded to learn otherwise.

Any thoughts? 

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Re: Deep-seated hatred against promiscuous people
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2010, 03:34:28 AM »
schenderson22 and Ginny, thanks for your replies.
 
I used to be what people normally call open-minded, but somehow I felt as if knowing or trying to understand why others may want something different doesn't really help applying LOA (believing, focusing on what we want).
 
I'll explain why with an example:
I believe in A (e.g. "the moon circles around the Earth, which stands still") but you believe in B ("the Earth circles around the moon, which stands still"), and the two beliefs are incompatible.
Yet, logically and rationally, both A and B are possible, and I can try to find out how come you believe that B is possible.
However, the moment I say "also B is possible", doesn't it mean that I believe in A only 50%?
 
Consequently, I think that the only way to believe in A 100% is to say "everything else should not be possible".

Hope you understand what I mean...
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Re: Deep-seated hatred against promiscuous people
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2010, 03:06:44 PM »
It's interesting that in your example, both A and B are wrong (although I notice you chose your A so that your version is "right"). Neither the Earth nor the Moon stands still, unless you choose one of them arbitrarily as your point of reference. Sorry for being a pedant, but I thought maybe this was a sign :)

I'm going to say something that will sound very judgemental... and I suppose it is, because I am reaching conclusions about the sort of person you are, without ever having met you. But I don't mean it to be judgemental in terms of your characteristics being "bad" - this is just how I am coming to understand you.

You seem like someone who is terrified of loss and betrayal. Perhaps you have been badly hurt in the past, or others have disappointed you. Your reaction seems to be to try to control everything, and to develop a philosophy that dictates that others must live in a way that reduces the risk of loss and betrayal that you fear. From my own experience, if you keep projecting that fear and keep trying to control everything and everyone around you, you will just attract more of what you fear. It's like schenderson22 quoted "Instead of telling God how big your fear is, tell your fear how big your God is"

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Re: Deep-seated hatred against promiscuous people
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2010, 07:18:56 PM »
Ginny, you do agree though that your belief in C (quoting you: "Neither the Earth nor the Moon stands still, unless you choose one of them arbitrarily as your point of reference.") excludes the other two beliefs A and B, right?
You, yourself, said that "both A and B are wrong". My message to schenderson22 is that in order to truly believe in anything, it is an inherent requirement that you reject whatever you think is wrong.
 
Relativism/subjectivism is also one belief about an all-encompassing absolute, thus by itself contraddictory.
("I believe that anything can be true. Including the possibility that nothing is true. Thus... I truly believe in nothing?")
 
Regarding the second point:
Yes I am, not due to my own experiences but due to everything I hear about around me - I mean, including on this very forum.
 I think that with a proper use of LOA, combined with my philosophy, I have been able to keep loss and betrayal at bay.
 
Yet, when I see films, songs, newspaper headlines, mass media, that talk about promiscuity, cheating, etc. in such a normal matter-of-life tone, it makes me sad...

Also, in relation to my other post. Socializing, networking, etc. Almost EVERYONE in the mainstream society talks about promiscuity in a quite positive way, sometimes even promoting it ("Woah, that guy fu**ed the bosses wife after being fired. He's a real genius!").
 
In such real-life situations, how can I keep focusing on my goals, attracting my reality, visualize positive things, etc. without getting a bit defensive?
 
(I'm talking about most of this from a non-LOA point of view)

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Re: Deep-seated hatred against promiscuous people
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2010, 07:54:41 PM »
Yet, when I see films, songs, newspaper headlines, mass media, that talk about promiscuity, cheating, etc. in such a normal matter-of-life tone, it makes me sad...

Also, in relation to my other post. Socializing, networking, etc. Almost EVERYONE in the mainstream society talks about promiscuity in a quite positive way, sometimes even promoting it ("Woah, that guy fu**ed the bosses wife after being fired. He's a real genius!").

I don't come across this. I don't know how we have come to inhabit such different worlds. Maybe again it is because I am female, and perhaps males who would normally brag about this kind of thing would not brag to me about it. Or perhaps it is LOA.

Pretty much everyone I know is in committed monogamous relationships. I am not judgmental against people who aren't, or who like multiple partners, I just don't come across them in my day to day existence. I sincerely believe that you attract what you focus on. I don't spend my days railing against infidelity, so I never tend to come across it. Ten years ago there was a rumour that a man and his secretary in my company were having an affair, but it wasn't of any interest to me. And about 8 years ago, a friend of a friend temporarily left his girlfriend because she wanted a baby and he didn't (I've only managed to come up with this example through wracking my brains). But generally it is something I come across very rarely.

You often see things depicted in films that are unusual in day to day life. My days are not filled with bank robbers, asteroids hitting earth, space aliens, talking dogs or drug lords torturing innocent civilians, but these things feature commonly in films. I wouldn't use the content of the media as a guide to what real life is like.

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In such real-life situations, how can I keep focusing on my goals, attracting my reality, visualize positive things, etc. without getting a bit defensive?

I can't tell you how not to get defensive, I can only say that, from my own experience, the tighter you cling and the more you concentrate on your fears, the more they are manifested. Try to concentrate on what you want rather than what you don't want.

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Re: Deep-seated hatred against promiscuous people
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2010, 09:42:28 PM »
Uploading,

I have been looking and reading this post for some time now.
I just got to say, that hatred for anyone, is born of fear, and that fear is likely to be attracted back to you.

I say instead of hating people that are prone to promiscuity, love the people, hate the act.
Also, for some, promiscuity is an addiction, and they need help to overcome such a dangerous affliction.

Love the people, help them if you can, fear not promiscuity, but realize it for what it is in each individual stricken by it.

Don't create a belief in your sub-conscious that will only attract that very thing to you in some form or another.

Just my two-cents,
Peace and Love,
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Re: Deep-seated hatred against promiscuous people
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2010, 11:05:39 PM »
Thanks... well, I know I can de-attract it or attract the opposite, but I fear that in my work/job life it will be a problem to de-attract it.
 
Ginny, it's true. Let me put it this way: if I forget LOA, any personal development, philosophy, religion and am just myself in my society, upbringing, etc. that is exactly what I see around me on a day-to-day basis.

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Re: Deep-seated hatred against promiscuous people
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2010, 11:50:36 PM »
Well you know I do understand where you are coming from. I confess I do dislike promiscuity and overall cheating and any form of hurting another person in a relationship.  Because everyone has different opinions and there are some people who like to sleep around or go from person to person I can not see promiscuity eliminated.
For me I am just grateful that I get to choose the people I am friends with so if a person goes against my belief on the subject of monogamy and loyalty I stop being around them. And if I just happen to attract a situation where there is promiscuity I am grateful that those people show me how lucky and sensible I am. I mean to say that I thank God that I am not like that and that I do not attract men who behave like that to me.
Obviously to you and I promiscuous people suck and we can associate and label them as bad but we have a choice as to how we react to them. You can choose to let there actions to feel angry and hatred for it or you can join me and feel grateful that you are not like them, that your bff, your mother and father, sisiter, cousin and me are not like them.
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