Author Topic: Limiting Belief=Advise Advise=Limiting Beliefs (Read 1289 times)

Magdog, MD, Mr. Best Luck · « **on:** February 22, 2011, 10:05:57 PM »

I have come under the impression that advise may be a set of limiting beliefs, overthinking the situation, should I call or not, or what did that mean, etc., so I ask, define

1. Limiting Beliefs

2. Advise

3. Judgement

point is if you are trusting in the universe and in your gut, why do we need advise, advise seems to be sought when we lack confidence and deal with fear, and do not believe. If you are in a good place, and I think Abraham calls it the Vortex, why do we need advise?

Magdog, MD, Mr. Best Luck, Humble and Grateful

Magdog, MD, Mr. Best Luck · « **Reply #1 on:** February 23, 2011, 01:46:24 AM »

that is why i have a big problem with all the dating advise that people give on the forum, it may go against what there gut is telling them to do, and then prolong the process. It shows a lack of trust in yourself and your work.

The technical advise I agree with, in terms of how to do LOA, and many on here I am grateful too.

So maybe it is gratitudes, letting go, and trusting your gut. I have gone against many forms of advise, and before when I followed the NC rule things went sideways in my opinion, when I follow my gut things seem to start moving, LOA says action to complete.

Any thoughts

Magdog, MD, Mr. Best Luck · « **Reply #2 on:** February 23, 2011, 02:12:40 AM »

then it will be the right thing to do
[12:15:19 PM] Gi: once they set a desire , they will put the wheels of the universe in motion towards manifestation
[12:15:38 PM] Gi: and the universe may even speak through the lips of another person
[12:15:47 PM] Gi: so what ever they do, this is the right thing to dio
[12:25:41 PM] Peter : but if all the answers are within, that is a contradiction
[12:30:27 PM] Peter :


MEDITATION - ENERGY HEALING - SOUND HEALING - CHAKRAS BALANCING - CHI CENTE

[12:36:17 PM] Gi: nope, cause sometimes someone else is needed to take the answers out
[12:36:21 PM] Gi: or to clarify things
[12:36:34 PM] Gi: some ppl, write it down, some others ask for advice
[12:36:34 PM] Gi: has to do with the individual

Ok this is a conversation I had on this an a different point of view

Vicki Christina · « **Reply #3 on:** February 23, 2011, 02:38:58 AM »

I do have many thoughts on this topic. Your point is well taken as the site is primarily to work with LOA issues and help people learn about bringing it into our lives. We are not writing "Dear Ann". However, it is difficult for even the seasoned sage to stay in the vortex non-stop without a helping hand for support and a bit of advice. When we leave the heart place and let fear, depression, and desperation kick in, then I think it is good to come here for a bit of support and even a push, nudge, or reality bite. After all, the people here are often in a closer mindset than many other people who we have to talk to about LOA and our relationships. Even my therapist who I visited a few times with this was negative and hard on me a couple of times because my goal was to feel love and gratitude as opposed to anger. She wanted me to have an anger stage – I did not want to spend much time there.

When I read this I felt uncomfortable because I do not want people to feel they cannot come here to let their fears and low days be exposed. Everyone has ups and downs. Even the very self actualized people I have known need help at times. If they say they never need help, then they are pretending.

When we were discussing not having contact in the past, (and it is in the Bible link for getting your ex back) it was always suppose to be to get your emotional self back together and not act desperate. It was not meant to ignore your gut and intuition.

After I read this post from you and was mulling over my thoughts, I opened a page marked in Ram Dass “Be Love Now”, page 83 of the e-book - quite a random page choice. It said the same thing about members belonging to a Satsang or spiritual group. There is always someone needing support from an up or down.

I just do not want people to think they cannot voice the doubting down days, or needed support. We all know when in a state of love and appreciation the gut intuition is best!

schenderson22 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 23, 2011, 03:23:41 AM »

I actually just read a post that a member a "gut feeling" to contact someone. It was strong. However, she came here first and some members asked her to determine the motivation behind that feeling. She determined, on her own, that the feeling of desperation and fear is what was prompting her to feel the need to contact this person. Therefore, her "gut feeling" was wrong. B/c it wouldn't have brought her the happiness or results she desired.

I have found when I sit on a strong "gut feeling" and do nothing, that is the right thing to do. We do not have this mastered. We are not Buddhist monks and therefore have to work through these emotions logically. "Gut feelings" in my opinion are run of emotions.

I have found that intuition that does not invoke a huge emotion is usually the best ones to work with. As for you, Peter, I feel, had you not acted on your "gut feeling" your situation with her would be very different right now. Angels come in the form of people, to guide and help you through both good and difficult times. As humans we are constantly evolving and learning. If we didn't need help along the way, there would be no need for us to be here.

Magdog, MD, Mr. Best Luck · « **Reply #5 on:** February 23, 2011, 05:51:46 AM »

Hmmmm, when I go with my gut feelings, I always consider the underlying feeling, I would say I agree and disagree with you, if the act is a knee-jerk, as I did last week, and not in terms of her, but another situation, I would say yes, and I knew right away, I think my point is that I do not act immediately when I have a gut feeling, but after contemplation and assessment, I personally have found it to works the best for me. Nobody me or you, can say that my actions have made any difference one way or another. I do like and agree that help or people in your life can be of assistance, but I also believe they can hinder if they get upset or judgmental if someone does not take their advise. I always tell people what I personally what I would do, and also say you have to do what you feel is right, because you are the one manifesting and creating and you feel the vibrations from that person or situation, that is where the gut comes in. So I think that what you are saying is that gut feeling is an act of desperation?, where I am saying that in the right frame of mind, and if it feels right, it is an inspired decision. In the brightmiracles.com website I believe it says just that. I will go back and reread. I know this post scares some here, because it goes with what they believe. But, I am not saying what I am thinking is wrong or right, I believe every situation, mine, yours the others, we can learn from. Any act of desperation usually is not productive, but a confident, secure, inspired, I just know, and in my situation muscle tested act can be a monk like divine inspiration. Choopra says that we should not judge, be judged, or be defensive. I hope that I have exhibited those traits in this post. What I am finding out is that maybe there is no right and wrong once you tap into gratitude, LOA, vibrations, and that all our actions, gut, knee-jerk, desperation may be part of the process to the goal. Maybe you guys talking out her out of not calling was to show her how to use her gut?

Magdog, MD, Mr. Best Luck · « **Reply #6 on:** February 23, 2011, 05:58:53 AM »

ps: I guess what I am trying to say is that sometimes we are not trusting in LOA, and going by advice or personal experience, I am on the fence here, because I understand that people need comfort and are confused, and I do not lack compassion trust me, I really am on the fence trying to learn, and honestly I think a series of events have attracted us to this point. As you see above in the conversation, I see merit in the advise, what I do not see is merit in if you do not follow it, or are second-guessed for doing what you thought was right if it comes from a cool emotional LOA place. I really never know if what works for me works for others, really digging deep into this one, not to prove anyone wrong, this one really has my interest. Anyone know Choopra's number?, lol

Magdog, MD, Mr. Best Luck · « **Reply #7 on:** February 23, 2011, 06:06:02 AM »

Quote from: schenderson22 on February 23, 2011, 03:23:41 AM

I have found when I sit on a strong "gut feeling" and do nothing, that is the right thing to do. We do not have this mastered. We are not Buddhist monks and therefore have to work through these emotions logically. "Gut feelings" in my opinion are run of emotions.

I have found that intuition that does not invoke a huge emotion is usually the best ones to work with. As for you, Peter, I feel, had you not acted on your "gut feeling" your situation with her would be very different right now. Angels come in the form of people, to guide and help you through both good and difficult times. As humans we are constantly evolving and learning. If we didn't need help along the way, there would be no need for us to be here.

I agree with all of it, and I am coming to my angels, my friends to learn and accomplish, and I am very grateful for all the angels. I am not a Upload here. I cannot tell you how calm and happy I am and for that I am grateful. And everyday I include you all in my gratitudes that all your dreams are coming true as mine are, and I am very grateful for that also.

Magdog, MD, Mr. Best Luck · « **Reply #8 on:** February 23, 2011, 06:15:21 AM »

Quote from: Vicki Christina on February 23, 2011, 02:38:58 AM

I do have many thoughts on this topic. Your point is well taken as the site is primarily to work with LOA issues and help people learn about bringing it into our lives. We are not writing "Dear Ann". However, it is difficult for even the seasoned sage to stay in the vortex non-stop without a helping hand for support and a bit of advice. When we leave the heart place and let fear, depression, and desperation kick in, then I think it is good to come here for a bit of support and even a push, nudge, or reality bite. After all, the people here are often in a closer mindset than many other people who we have to talk to about LOA and our relationships. Even my therapist who I visited a few times with this was negative and hard on me a couple of times because my goal was to feel love and gratitude as opposed to anger. She wanted me to have an anger stage – I did not want to spend much time there.

When I read this I felt uncomfortable because I do not want people to feel they cannot come here to let their fears and low days be exposed. Everyone has ups and downs. Even the very self actualized people I have known need help at times. If they say they never need help, then they are pretending.

When we were discussing not having contact in the past, (and it is in the Bible link for getting your ex back) it was always suppose to be to get your emotional self back together and not act desperate. It was not meant to ignore your gut and intuition.

After I read this post from you and was mulling over my thoughts, I opened a page marked in Ram Dass “Be Love Now”, page 83 of the e-book - quite a random page choice. It said the same thing about members belonging to a Satsang or spiritual group. There is always someone needing support from an up or down.

I just do not want people to think they cannot voice the doubting down days, or needed support. We all know when in a state of love and appreciation the gut intuition is best!

What does Abraham say about advise?
I am not saying that advise=comforting, therefore don't do it.
Kneejerking and reacting I do not equate to the gut feeling, just to clarify, so I would agree with both you and SCh, but also still take a stance of the emotional condition you are in when you follow your gut.
NC, I am a supporter of if it is for yourself, not to manipulate, because what we give, we get back, I just listened to a audio, came on by accident on my MP3 player that I bought when it first happened and it advocated getting her jealous. I muscle tested and it said no do not follow that advise. And my gut says no games. Be a man and just stand strong, and let her know how you feel, and leave it at that, and that is pretty much what I have been doing. Call it inner guidance. My initial post yes I was leaning toward a different opinion, but as you can see in my next post, and the others, I am taking it all in. And thank you. I was not questioning the actions of the members of the forum, I was reviewing my own,

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Vicki Christina · « **Reply #9 on:** February 23, 2011, 07:24:24 AM »

So I think that what you are saying is that gut feeling is an act of desperation? I did not mean to imply that at all - quite the opposite.

I do not know what Abraham says about this or Chopra specifically except Abraham says make decisions in the Vortex and Chopra says love.

Alan Cohen says flip a penny and see your gut reaction not to make a decision but to check feelings. I do that occasionally.

I'll look at this more later. I have some things to get done and just got in from dinner.

Vicki Christina · « **Reply #10 on:** February 23, 2011, 09:04:44 AM »

I want my LOA friends here to give me direction occasionally when I have wander off of the path of gratitude and growth. Have I ever wondered if some of our discussions were counter productive – yes. Usually I extracted myself from those discussions as over the top analysis does not sit well with me here. Some people have seemed to enjoy the inspection of semantics. I feel we are free to have individual perceptions on the topics – that is what happens in all we do. Our perceptions are what we have acquired from our personal experiences. But I am grateful for this forum.

When I went through this relationship situation five years ago, I applied LOA on my own with little conversation with anyone. Sometimes I think that was good too. I did get through the ordeal much quicker, but really I feel the circumstances were such that I was able to connect easier with my Honey. I repeat – I am grateful for this forum as I have learned so much from so many! I do not plan to stray this time even if I accomplish my strongest desires because I know that my inattention to LOA helped put me back here again!

During the most recent months I have come to see where some limiting beliefs have sabotaged my goals and desires. Thank you all!

schenderson22 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 23, 2011, 11:50:35 PM »

You are progressing Peter. You like to hear yourself talk. That is okay and here you are thinking "aloud". You will get where you want to be. However, it's going to take time.

Best of LOA to you.

Polaris · « **Reply #12 on:** February 23, 2011, 11:52:59 PM »

i do not listen to anyone but my own gut instincts and intuition

it has manifested me stuff pretty well so far

Magdog, MD, Mr. Best Luck · « **Reply #13 on:** February 24, 2011, 12:08:27 AM »

Quote from: schenderson22 on February 23, 2011, 11:50:35 PM

You are progressing Peter. You like to hear yourself talk. That is okay and here you are thinking "aloud". You will get where you want to be. However, it's going to take time.

Best of LOA to you.

Sc,

LOL, it will only take time if you believe it and I do, and I am grateful it will be speedy, and grateful that I do think outloud

. Thanks for that needed validation,

. Please be grateful for me that it will be a very quick process for all of us, including you with your dreams, and I grateful for you and all of us doing that.

MD

angel_star · « **Reply #14 on:** February 24, 2011, 12:10:21 AM »

What if my gut instinct tells me to approach a particular person for advice? May be the Universe is leading me to the person and through him/her the Universe is guiding me? Just a quick thought!