Ho'oponopono......it really really works.....TRUST me!!!

[judasentinel]

Many of us know the "Hawaiian" clearing technique of Ho'oponopono. I just want to share the idea and thoughts behind it and the actual meanings of the statements uttered when you do it.

A brief explanation is in my signature, but I want to explain it in a bit more detail.

Dr. Hew Len (who has a very unique first name), is considered to be the one who brought it out in limelight with Joe Vitale. Both of them have co-created a book titled Zero Limits, which is an interesting read.

Basically, Dr. Len is like a monk to me, who has no interest in helping others and no attachment to anyone or anything. He goes about his life with one single purpose - to make amends for whatever life throws at him. His philosophy is that he is here in this life to fulfill his purpose of becoming an 'infinite zero', a term that he also ascribes to God/Universe/Source. He calls the Source an infinite nothingness that possesses infinite power to do anything, simply because it is completely devoid of any desires, attachments and needs. He wants to attain that state and believes that all of us also have the same purpose.

Apparently, he has taken the phrase 'We create our own reality' to a whole new level, whereby he sees everyone and everything coming into his experience as manifestations of his own desires. So whenever he sees something or experiences something or someone he does not like, he likes to do what he calls "cleaning". This "cleaning" technique is what is called Ho'oponopono.

In this technique, one needs to make certain assumptions, well, basically 5 assumptions:

1. That EVERYTHING and EVERYONE undesirable that comes into in our experience or the desirable that does NOT come into our experience is because of something within us that attracts the undesirable and repels the desired.

2. That God/Source has the power to change it to what one wants, by doing just ONE thing - help us get rid of whatever is IN US that created the experience we dont want....you can call them limiting beliefs, or use Joe Vitale's term of 'counter-intentions'.

3. We can NEVER be fully aware of ALL that is inside of us creating the undesirable situations. It is almost impossible to fathom the complexity and breadth of the limiting beliefs/perceptions that we can have, so it is pointless to go on clearing all of them one by one.

4. Everything that needs to be dealt with, is what is NOW. So the technique is not about the past and not about the future bad events. It is about clearing/cleaning yourself IN THE MOMENT about what you are experiencing IN THE MOMENT.

5. The more limitations you remove inside of you, the more energy you have for positive manifestations - the main reason for lack of manifestation is too much focus on limitations and limiting beliefs. Get rid of them and you free up your energy for inspired actions and miraculous manifestations.

Dr. Len does not believe in intentions. He openly says that he rarely experiences Godly unconditional love for others, including his family. And to experience that Godly love he says, he MUST be free of any desires, any attachments, any needs.

I dont think most of us want to be there, but let's see the technique now and what it is supposed to mean and do.

Keeping the above 5 assumptions in mind, you are supposed to utter 4 statements (could be more or less, but we can stick to the simplest) in any sequence WHENEVER we are feeling a certain negative way, either due to something undesirable happening, or due to the desire not manifesting. These statements are:

a. I'm sorry
b. Please forgive me
c. Thank you
d. I love you

Essentially, these statements are directed towards GOD/Source, not ourselves or another person.

a. I'm sorry
The intent behind saying this is that we are saying to God that we admit to NOT knowing WHAT IN US is causing us to feel and experience the current scenario. It is not an apology for doing wrong, but an acknowledgment of our lack of understanding about the cause(s) of our misery.

b. Please forgive me
This is a statement of acknowledging the infinite power of God and asking God to forgive us for participating in the manifestation of these undesirable events, and to let us be free of them.

c. Thank you
A simple gesture of gratitude to God for clearing us of our limitations that are causing the undesirable situations IN THE MOMENT.

d. I love you
A statement of declaring surrender and giving up the need to control things, with the trust that a power that flows and promises to flow only with love, WILL bring about what we truly desire, WHEN we are cleared of whatever is IN US that is preventing us from manifesting our desire.

Dont know if you can use it for a specific purpose to get something, but I am certain that you CAN use this for removing ALL your limiting beliefs in ONE go. And all you need to do is say these statements with feeling, which you can get when you focus on knowing that there was something in YOU that created the moment which you are not too happy about. Let the tears run down your cheeks.....let the humility prevail when you admit that you have NO IDEA what all you have in you that caused your present moment to be the way it is. SURRENDER.........there is immense power in it.

These are just my thoughts, and like always, all I care about is to have my Rosie back with me. And if you feel this helps you in any way, or you liked it, all I want you to do is to send positive, healthy, loving thoughts towards her and me. I want as much positive energy and love that I can gather to bring her and me back together SOON for the benefit of ALL concerned. There's no reason why it must not happen, and EVERY reason that IT IS SO.

[Iron Ur]

everything heals at a steady pace

[Mergirl]

Um I have a question. I don't believe in forgiving or saying sorry. Can it work if i just say I love you and thank you?

[judasentinel]

Um I have a question. I don't believe in forgiving or saying sorry. Can it work if i just say I love you and thank you?

I dont know if I should laugh at this or cry............anyone else want to chime in? The devil in me just wants to come out and..........SERENITY NOW!!!!!

[HelpingitHappen]

Mergirl,

I am surprised that you don't believe in forgiving or saying your sorry.
Forgiveness is a very powerful emotion. It can remove blocks of unwanted negative energy. Being forgiven by someone else is not as important as forgiving others. Even more important is to forgive yourself. Living in a state of being unforgiven by your self, is likened to saying "I am not worthy of my desires." You know you really are, but instead it creates a blockage in you, maybe you would call it a conflict between you and you. You know the truth, you feel no remorse, but the fact stands, you have not forgiven yourself. To forgive others is incredibly liberating.
I don't care what anyone says, forgiveness, forgiving and being forgiven has incredible positive energy. If you want to attract anything you really desire, Forgiving, especially yourself, is the very first step.
I forgive all who have wronged me, and I forgive myself for wronging others. I feel the weight removed as soon as its done. The negative energy leaves me at that very moment. I don't expect to be forgiven by others, but I do appreciate it and do feel it when it is done. But the forgiveness of others for me is not whats important to me. If others want to live within the negativity of not being able to forgive, that is their choice. You don't have to forgive others to their face, or say "I'm sorry" to them, although it does have a self-healing power to it,  Do it within your heart and feel it as positivity races through your being. 
Forgiveness has changed many lives, healed countries, stopped battles, even saved lives from horrible deaths. Forgiveness heals the heart, and without it happiness is just a word without meaning, just empty and cold.
Forgiveness is the cornerstone of the true happiness that can be experienced by all.
Just my thoughts,
BW

[Mergirl]

I understand where you are coming from on the subject of forgiveness and I don't think there is anything wrong with believing in it but I have come to realise from various research as to why it is unnecessary.

Firstly, forgiveness indicates that I am above the person who has done something upsetting to me. To say I forgive someone who has done some wrong doing is placing judgement on them and saying that I am above them and that I have the power to clear their wrong doing (note that their wrong doing is a judgement itself and really is your  own wrong doing because you have judged an action as bad in your mind but perhaps to them or another person that action may not be a "bad' thing in their minds)
Also if someone has done something that you don't like and it causes you some kind of upset you should rather say thank you to them for the situation/enlightenment brought about by their wrong doing (your perception of it being bad) because there is some kind of lesson that comes about from it. If you look at the situation deeply, for example, your ex treats you badly and leaves you for another person. To most people this would be a "bad" thing that causes anger and resentment but if you look at it deeply there is great wisdom from it. When most of us go through a break up we turn to our friends and we learn which one of them are our true friends by who helps us, who are there for us in such a tough time. For most of us here on the forum, found this forum because of a break up, through which we found more like minded and supportive people. Then there is the wisdom of realising how wrong the person is for us and that we deserve better. We learn to never give to much of ourselves away in the relationship the next time. We learn what we did wrong and learn not to do it in the next relationship. The list could go on. So to quote the man who introduced me to the concept of not needing to forgive and my overall LOA role model, Dr Demartini there is no need to forgive "Unless you can say that forgiveness is thank you for giving me this experience."

Secondly if to forgive is to be above the person than to say sorry is to say that we are below the person.  Again here we judge, but this time it is our own action we judge. We think we have done something so wrong or bad and need to humble our actions by saying sorry and in turn saying the person who we have wronged is above us and only when they accept the apology and forgive us then we can  go from being "bad" to "good". An example here is, say you mistakenly bump into someone. Instead of saying sorry, you ask how the person is or if there is anything you can do to to make amends. By asking them such questions shows love and kindness which is far more beneficial to both you and the person you bumped into.

This is why I asked the question in the above post. Because if you think about it the only two important feelings are love and gratitude for everyone and everything in your life. Love and gratitude are at the centre of every situation and every person. Love and gratitude is centred wisdom. When you are loving and thankful you judge no one and no thing. IDK but that is what I think and it suits me well.

I have posted two videos By Dr Demartini that brought the insight of forgiveness and apologising into my way of seeing things and I looked this concept up very thoroughly to realise for myself this has profound meaning. If I haven't done a good job in explaining then I recommend his book The Breakthrough Experience because he goes more detail into this in it.

Dr John Demartini - Gratitude and Joy interviewed by Paul Dunn from Buy1GIVE1

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[LeyLine]

Ho oponopono really DOES work..it has worked for me again and again, better than any vision board/affirmation list/gratitude list/visualisation
 
I found it about 2 months ago, and after i discovered it, all kinds of manifestations started flowing in my life. I would repeat the mantra for a day to correct a particular undesirable manifestation and right the next day AT THE LATEST (sometimes it took me only a few hours or even minutes lol) the undesirable manifestation was replaced by a desirable one.
 
I started using it again 3 days ago....for 3 days, nothing happened. Then last night i returned home from work, opened my email and found one from my ex...it was one of these FW emails, speaking bout ppl that really matter and you dont wanna lose from your life, and it wouldnt have meant much if i wasnt the ONLY RECEIVER. I didnt reply to this email and i didnt forwarded back, like the email was saying
 
Today i logged in my YIM, and after an hour or so, my guy logged in too and started typing to me asking why i hadnt replied to his email. (mind you, we are 8 hours apart..that means that he had set his alarm clock at about 4.30am his time, just to see if he had received a reply to his email and if i was available). I said that i didnt understand that this email needed a reply and we talked for a while about this and that..
 
Then, i got this inspiration, and right  out of the blue i asked him ,* So when are you coming here?* He said *huh?* i said *i asked when are u coming here?* he said *why are you asking that?* i said *because you want to come* he said *what makes you think that i do?* And i replied *because you do...so you have 2 options : either you out of stuborness will say 'i dont want to come here' thus losing something that you want to do...or you will say 'i would like to come, lets say, in april' and do what you really want to do.
 
He remained silent for a few minutes - i patiently waited. And then he typed *we could meet in amsterdam, spent a few days there, and then return to athens together*...After that he stopped typing....but i didnt insist and i didnt mind. That was a HUGE thing for him to say. Poor soul, he probably couldnt believe that he actually DID.
 
3 days of ho oponopono guys...3 days of silently repeating that simple mantra, i love you, im sorry, please forgive me, thank you. I wasnt even emotional when i did it..i was just repeating. 3 days, and the first big step towards my ultimate manifestation, which is to meet him again, came to pass. So, i would advice you..instead of spending your lonely hours reflecting on everything that could go wrong, just keep repeating
 
peace
 
PS: I also tried to send him a chi ball filled with sexual energy yesterday...and im convinced that this played a major role too
 
 

[57angel]

I agree with you HelpingItHappen, forgiveness is indeed a very powerful emotion. When I was still small, Mom used to tell us that being unforgiving will end up with diseases not only to the body but to the soul as well At my age now with bad relationships and failures from my past, I then took responsibility of my actions and now realized that my being unforgiving to myself for all the wrong choices that I made blocked my opportunities to trust and to be happy. After my breakup few months ago, it was like I hit the bottom level and there is no way but up. I started with my affirmation, "I completely and profoundly forgive, accept and love myself". This is a very powerful affirmation as I now gain more confidence in myself even with the wrong choices that I made in the past. Indeed, forgiving most to myself is very liberating

[LeyLine]

I believe in forgiveness too. However, if we want to be just, i have to say that mergirl doesnt say that we shouldnt forgive...she just has a totally different point of view. Its not like shes unforgiving because shes selfish or arrogant or mean or whatever...she just doesnt think that there is something to forgive or apologise for.
 
Its true that the universe doesnt know right or wrong...in the universe things just ARE, and we are the ones who label them. I can understand her point....but it doesnt work for me personally. I have reflected on this in the past but i dont feel im strong or enlightened enough to abandon forgiveness....an enlighted person is perfectly concious of how everything is interconnected and that the universe itself is perfect, therefore theres nothing to forgive or apologise for. But i think ill stick to forgiveness for now, at least.

[Ginny]

I fall somewhere between 31 and mergirl. I don't generally "forgive" for the reasons 31 said - there is nothing to forgive. For me to forgive someone, I have to assume that they've done something wrong. That hasn't happened to me for a long time, as I think most of the time people are acting the best they can according to how they see the world - very few people intentionally set out to be "bad". I do apologise sometimes though, as other people need to hear it. I know that I mean well, even when my actions aren't always that great, but the other person might not understand that unless I apologise for actions which unintentionally hurt them.

[judasentinel]

@mergirl: BEING JUDGMENTAL IS A NECESSARY PART OF LIFE, BOTH FOR SURVIVAL AND FOR GROWTH. Every word that you wrote is a judgment. Even the statement about forgiveness being a case of feeling superior is a judgment. When you say that saying sorry is a judgment that you are inferior to/beneath someone, IS A JUDGMENT. You simply cannot escape judgment. And this too, is a judgment, lol.

First off, ho'oponopono is NOT about forgiving or asking for forgiveness from another person. The technique is guided towards God/Source. It is simply an acknowledgment of the greatness of that entity. And yes, you can do away with whatever you dont want to say. It really doesn't make any difference. Dr. De Martini may think one way. See, people who cry out against racism are usually racist in their own minds. It ALWAYS takes one to know one. If he thinks forgiveness signals superiority or inferiority, then he is of the mindset that believes in creating boundaries and limits to what is and isn't acceptable behavior. So what if I said sorry? So what if I asked for forgiveness? It is NOT about you. For once, forgiveness and sorry about the acknowledgment of another person's spirit and existence, that IF that person is hurt in some way due to YOUR actions, dont you have the humility to even admit that you did something that caused them pain?

You know what? Take it to the extreme. Imagine a world where NO ONE says sorry, and NO ONE asks for forgiveness. I can guarantee there will be 6 billion + people walking the earth with a huge chip on their shoulders. You want that, then go right ahead. You want negative energies of others? Be that way......

This seems like an extreme case of moral relativism to me........if there is love, there is an automatic forgiveness component in there. With love comes humility, and a sorry is part of humility. These are mere words uttered to have a feeling inside of you. Probably you have this above/beneath thing in your own psyche and it has no reality beyond what you believe. To each their own..........

[kjkitt]

I absolutely believe in Ho'oponopono! I love saying it whenever I experience something negative.  I listen to the meditation before going to bed and wake up feeling wonderful.  Thank you for the posting.

I also absolutely believe in forgiveness!  All through the bible it tells us to forgive.  As written in Matthew 6:9-13, The Lord's Prayer; "Forgive us our sins,
as we forgive those who sin against us."

We have 'free will' and have the right to believe what we wish. 

Thank you for posting.

[Magdog, MD, Mr. Best Luck]

http://huna-ohana.com/

I guess they claim this to hoponopono on steroids

[loveofabundance]

It's huna, which is where ho'oponopono comes from.

[judasentinel]

According to ho'oponopono, we dont really have free will. All we have is a choice. It somehow makes a distinction between the two. Free will assumes doing whatever we choose out of our own volition. Ho'oponopono assumes that our 'free will' is subservient to our memories/programming/limiting beliefs, etc.., so in essence, our free will is not so free after all. It essentially moves forward from it, claiming that we STILL have a choice to make. And the choice is to either succumb to whatever we have playing in the background, OR clean the garbage up by surrendering to the divine (God, source, whatever), and letting the divine help us in knowing for a fact what is truly BEST for us.

Note that it is not claiming that we dont know what is best for us. In fact, it is confirming that what we believe is best for us, IS BEST FOR US, but only in the light of what we believe. If we have limiting beliefs, we will choose what satisfies those beliefs in the BEST way. So if you are in an unhealthy state of mind and you choose a certain person to be in your life (even if you do not know youre in an unhealthy state of mind), that person is BEST for you under the circumstances. Yet, once you truly align yourself to source, the limiting beliefs wash away, and you just MIGHT discover that the BEST was not really the best. And that is the point to which ho'oponopono is geared to take you. It is supposed to clear your subconscious of the memories/limiting beliefs, so you live your life not from memory but from inspiration.

If anyone wants detailed videos and audios on this whole thing, I have tons of stuff on me now. I have the audio courses as well as videos of Dr. Hew Len and Joe Vitale. They go in great detail as to the theory and application of the process.

This is my current understanding. That's all.