Author Topic: Here is the plan I promisesd you (Read 20505 times)

Miracles · « **Reply #60 on:** June 22, 2011, 10:14:39 PM »

Iron UR,

It seems that you write from your very own life lessons, and your personal experience! Thank you for sharing these lessons!

Tinseltown · « **Reply #61 on:** June 24, 2011, 05:01:00 PM »

I was reading one of the materials which Iron Ur recommends - Mind Power Seduction - and a paragraph struck me as an absolute must-read for us all wrangling with an ex -

'...to make your desire successfully reach your subconscious mind...your conscious mind must cease to exercise the desire. As long as the conscious mind wants something, the very act of wanting implies a future tense in regard to fulfilment...so the way that you apply this to your mind power seduction work is that you must 'see' your desire as if already satisfied....'

Wow. And I suppose, furthermore, that if you see it as happening now, then letting go becomes easier because, well, it's happening....

Miracles · « **Reply #62 on:** June 24, 2011, 05:47:46 PM »

wow! I had to read that a couple of times in order to get it

It's very true!!

Thanks for sharing Tins!

Katie · « **Reply #63 on:** June 24, 2011, 06:24:36 PM »

That's why visualization is so important - you FEEL the outcome, and you are detached from it, with no doubt in your mind that it IS happening
Thanks Tins

S · « **Reply #64 on:** June 24, 2011, 10:57:58 PM »

Hey!

Is there any way that you could send me the link please to the mind power seduction book please?

Thank you!

Xx

Tinseltown · « **Reply #65 on:** June 24, 2011, 11:22:28 PM »

http://www.rv-visions.com/files/MindPowerSeductionManual.pdf

Tins

Iron Ur · « **Reply #66 on:** June 25, 2011, 02:15:19 AM »

This is from the website

http://www.chopra.com/askdeepakarchives

Question:

When you make contact with the universe and you want something how long does it take to get what you are asking for?
Deepak's Response:
What you want to do is have your desire from that state of consciousness that is one with the universe. This is the silent state of awareness reached through meditation. At that deepest level of nature, your intention and the intention of creation through you at that moment are one and the same. That state of awareness itself timeless and completely fulfilling, so it’s not a question of when you will get what you want-in that state, you are already the source, the process, and the outcome of what you want. The external manifestation of your desire is almost incidental, because you are already satisfied within and your happiness is no longer tied to your desire. That is why the spiritual approach to manifesting your desires is liberating in contrast to the approach that only emphasizes the external outcome that keeps you trapped in the cycle of trying to fulfill more and more desires in the search for happiness.

Miracles · « **Reply #67 on:** July 01, 2011, 07:48:46 PM »

Hello Iron,

Is it true that at some point in your relationship with your girl, she said that she didn't want to get back? and gave you the impression that you both should move on?

If so, how did you handle it??

Cause I just talked with my guy, and he told me to move on.. but at the same time, he hasn't stayed long in a relationship since we broke up.. and we're both single now.. Also, he always keeps coming back and restarting contact whenever we fall out and stop talking!!

Your help would be really valuable to me!

thank you!

ava · « **Reply #68 on:** July 01, 2011, 09:13:33 PM »

Hi Iron

one of the members of this forum(KNj) has posted a topic about remote influence,she had an interesting question about remote seduction or influence,i guess you can answer her question,she asked is it possible that the energy you send to your ex or someone else,get transferred to his/her new partner instead of being drawn back to you?cause she tried it almost 1month,each night,but she noticed changes to her ex boyfriend's relationship with his new partner!so she stopped sending energy to him.now we want to know is it possible that the energy we send to our ex or someone else,may transfer to another one,instead of drawn back to us?and i want to know personally can he/she FEELS that this positive energy is JUST from US?or he/she just feels a good energy from no where?!and if that is the truth,should we stop sending the ball of energy,cause he/she doesn't feel it from us?.........thank you for response........i am so confused now.when i read Knj's post i stopped RS,too...

Mariposa, (KnJ) · « **Reply #69 on:** July 02, 2011, 12:41:05 AM »

Quote from: Iron Ur on June 22, 2011, 09:02:25 PM

here is something I think I should throw up here, this is a important tip.

ok so WHEN they do tell you they love you or somethign along those lines. natually you'll be overjoyed and such but there will be another test you have to be weary of I'll put it here so you can pass.

naturally people do stuff and mean it, then get cold feet on their own desision. here an example, Alot of woman set up all the stuff for their marriage. all the plans, invitations, they talk about it day and night they flutter around etcetc. then when the day gte very close, suddenly they have second thoughts, or get cold feet.

that nothing againest women there, men get cold feet too. the point is even people who want something some much start to get second thoughts.

so whe nthe day comes that they finally say, they love you or are ready to be with you. yo ucan be as happy as you want but don't be attached to it again.

because 'sometimes', not allways, they will start to second guess what they said. IF they do you have to know how to handle it.

1. If they seem alittle withdrawn, insted of assuming you did something or somethign gone terribly wrong. simply ask them if their ok. if they say 'yes' just "simply say something along the lines of "ok, you just seemed like something was bothering you" and leave it a that.

if their IS something, and it's about them second guessing themselves, let THEM TELL YOU. they will if that the problem.

if that is and they do, do not hold them to it. say they say something like "about what I said..." or "I been thinking maybe I told yo uI loved you too fast" etc. insted of responding "butbutbut!!! WHY?? I thought!!! WHY DID YOU SAY IT IF YOUR NOT SURE?"

if they start to show having cold feet, simply accept wht they say with a genuine understanding. and arm yourself with the knowledge of WHY they are.

Know that dispite what they say about "it came out wrong" or w/e. if they told you they loved you and or want to be together. Know that they DO love you and DO want to be with you. they are just scared.

Know that they are not playing games or anything, but they are testing you on a SC level. IE they don't realize they are doing it.

Simply remain detached, remain independant of them for happyness, you don't need them to be happy, and tell them, you understand.

Don't try to hammer out any reasons why they feel this way, they simply do not know. and asking them will only put them on edge and push them away.

let them have their space, their time to realize that they DO want to be with you. but they have to realize it on theri own. you can still hang around them and be freindly to them etc. just don't push the issue. very soon they will let you know that they DO love you and they DO want to be with you and they needed time to realize their feelings were real and not fickle

This part is perfection!!!

Mariposa, (KnJ) · « **Reply #70 on:** July 02, 2011, 12:53:48 AM »

I am sorry to have upset you AVA.

I hope you find your answer.

I can tell you that when I first started sending unconditional love to my guy he was voracious about it! His appetite was HUGE! It was in the beginning as though he was STARVED for attention and love. But as time went on and he got full on my love he didn't accept it as easily and yes, it did seem to make it easier for him to accept this other woman and stay in that relationship.

So basically, by my withdrawing my love, he will end up in that starving place again and maybe by the time I resume giving him love he will have ridden himself of the woman that is making him so miserable and will choose to be with the one he truly loves and who loves him back.

I see this working out perfectly, patience is the key, oh and LOTS OF FAITH!!!

Iron Ur · « **Reply #71 on:** July 02, 2011, 04:06:30 AM »

Quote from: Miracles on July 01, 2011, 07:48:46 PM

Hello Iron,

Is it true that at some point in your relationship with your girl, she said that she didn't want to get back? and gave you the impression that you both should move on?

If so, how did you handle it??

Cause I just talked with my guy, and he told me to move on.. but at the same time, he hasn't stayed long in a relationship since we broke up.. and we're both single now.. Also, he always keeps coming back and restarting contact whenever we fall out and stop talking!!

Your help would be really valuable to me!

thank you!

thats true, I didn't take it well. at those times you a emotional wreck. as for what i did, well I was determinded to not go down so easily. and I'm done and continueing what I'm sharing now,

Monica Vijay · « **Reply #72 on:** July 02, 2011, 09:07:50 AM »

Quote from: ava on July 01, 2011, 09:13:33 PM

now we want to know is it possible that the energy we send to our ex or someone else,may transfer to another one,instead of drawn back to us?and i want to know personally can he/she FEELS that this positive energy is JUST from US?or he/she just feels a good energy from no where?!and if that is the truth,should we stop sending the ball of energy,cause he/she doesn't feel it from us?......... ,

This same question was arising in my mind too.. will they know that we are the one sending those energy.. when I read the book MPS it was stated in that, that when we seduce someone with mind power first an physical sensation of warmness hits them followed by thoughts of us.. it may be subtle but it does happen.. Hope this helps you.. Much love to all..

Believing Love · « **Reply #73 on:** July 02, 2011, 07:03:15 PM »

Ball of energy will be receive by the recipient if we have a strong faith that they will receive it.
that's my opinion

Mariposa, (KnJ) · « **Reply #74 on:** July 03, 2011, 08:00:55 AM »

They will get it and they will most likely have thoughts of you, but it also could make them feel so good that their conscience mind doesn't realize you are the reason and they will transfer these thought to the person they are with, if they are dating someone else. This is the point that is being made.