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No. Stop expecting you from other people.
He has no issues. It's only you that makes it an issue.

When you focus on you and become the best that you can be, the rest has no choice but to fall in place around you.

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OK... I See you are new...I don't concentrate much on LOA...I always reverse it and multiply it 1000's of times in my favor...Not to brag ...Simple my interest is lottery...Yes LOA is the law of how we live and bring everything to us...So In short....Just every time before you go to bed...Daydream for me...Visualize you and your lover doing anything you want...But ...Visualize him doing things to you...don't be embarrassed...The dirtier it is the better....You control your life...control what you want him to do...Own Him!!! Do youou want the LOA to bring to you the need for him or the want him.??//  ..No You OWN HIM.....So just visualize him and you doing whatever you want like walking or meeting for a coffee... Making love on the beach...or having intimate relations...But....YOU....Always .....back him off...Make him want you...see him wanting you , and you not interested......Play hard to get....You Own Him......Make him do and beg for you....Have funn...and Just have funnnn!!!   Just visualize in this way, and you will get results so fast and easy.....before you go to bed and if you fall asleep A-OK....Also in the morning if you want...Half hour to an hour, your subconscious mind can be very powerfull...Have funnn and just take it easy..do the simple things..

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I tended to do rs 2 or sometimes 3 times a day, but I found that if I tried to do more than that (even short sessions), I'd get mentally drained and my sessions would lose clarity and quality. I also felt I'd start tipping over into obsession/over attachment, when I increased my sessions.

So I'd say, find a routine that works for you that is long enough and frequent enough, but doesn't burn you out. RS can affect the target for anything between a few minutes to 6 hours or occasionally even more (I once felt the effects right into the following day). So keep that in mind, perhaps and time your sessions accordingly. Just be sure to practice regularly.

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I should distinguish the difference between the 2 for the sake of clarity.

Thinking from comes from the law of assumption. Assumptions come from our perceptions and perceptions are crafted by our experiences and awareness. It does not mean to imagine your desire is in front of your face all day. It does mean to think like you are coming from the position of having it already.

Feeling it real comes from Neville's Nightly Method which has to be used in a deep hypnotic / meditative, trance like state. Your brain navigates it's world via it's sensory perception. When something is full of sensory perception, it is real to the brain.

I refer to Neville Goddard teachings often on here because these are the closest teachings to that which I learned when learning telekinesis. Synaesthesia is when all senses merge into one, that of touch. If used to it's fullest skill and practiced and persisted within, you too can move stuff with just your mind, with eyes wide open and instantaneously or even have your desire.

EDIT: some grammar corrected.

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Flying high, great for you! Was it in the book "Mind power seduction"? Which exactly technique did you use from it? Thanks in advance.

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1) I wouldn't go as far as saying people are mentally ill just by talking to them on a forum.

Being sad, depressed, angry, etc, is not a mental illness.

2) I've known people that have started meditating and doing forgiveness and mindfulness practices at 14 years old, with great results.

The power of forgiveness and how it affects manifestation

"Then it seems to me you should just decide if you want to forgive yourself or forgive somebody else. You sit down, think, maybe talk it out with someone, and decide. You use your own personal value system. Like normal people. It may take a few days to completely get over it, but that's all. Like normal people.

And if after thinking about it, you don't want to forgive, then don't forgive. Like normal.

I mean even kids works this way."

When you are angry at someone, you are actually angry at your past. When you release that emotion, you align to peace again.

If we are creators of our very experienced, then it means we create the experiences we have with everybody else.

Thus, we don't actually forgive them, we forgive what we think they did to us.

We forgive the script we give to people that follow the identity we have created for ourselves.

This identity is a SUBCONSCIOUS BELIEFS full of the stories we keep telling to ourself. - Maybe we're always the victim, maybe we are always the abandoned one, maybe we are always the underdog. We have to find these patterns and then find the past experiences that first created these ideas.

Forgiving by "talking" is not really a forgiveness. A core experience (an experience that had a lot of emotion to us) buries itself in our subconscious mind.

Only by meditating or, at least, inner talk, we can let it go.

We are forgiving ourselves.

The central question is, do you HAVE to forgive anyone, yourself included, to be successful at the loa ?

No, not exactly.

But forgiveness is the faster path.

See, we have a story that we keep telling to us:
What happened to us in the past
What we have and don't have in the present
What we do and don't do in the present
And what our future can and can't be

ALl of these stories are based on the past experiences we've had.
Each CORE experience creates or adds power to a specific subconcious belief.

For exampl,e if your parents never took your opinion or never gave you any time, you might have created the SUB belief of I AM NOT IMPORTANT

We make that belief unconscious almost immediately, and then find more and more experiences to keep reassuring this idea. See, we defend our stories, we defend our identity as if changing it would mean death. That's why the EGO is afraid of leaving behind what you think you are.

So, by forgiving, you go STRAIGHT to the subconscious beliefs that are holding you back.

YOu always vote for building subconscious beliefs by visualizations. However, this path, without some kind of forgiveness or cleansing practice, is slower, because you are building new ideas on top of a lot of trash.

We need to clean the trash.

You have asked about this so much, so it seems to me you are somehow interested, that you have some things holding you back.

You can do forgiveness or cleansing practices AND do visualizations as well. It takes no time. I mean, even a mindfullness meditation (when you just breathe in and beathe out and clean your mind of every though for 10 20 minutes) does the job.

Do you HAVE to forgive anyone, yourself included, to gain enlightenment ?

Yes, of course, but enlightenment is a hard quest.

I like how Ramtha School of Enlightenment says: reach all your material goals first, and then go for enlightenment when you get bored.
Ramtha students include Joe Dispenza, Greg barden, Wayne Dyer, Bruce Lipton. All of them highly successful.

Are we here to learn the LOB or at learn how to stare at our navel ?
You can live your life as you choose to and you can be highly succesfoul and happy without ever knowing anything about any of this.

H0owever, most successful people at least know about having positive self-talk, good self-stem and overall belief in themselves.

You don't have to forgive anyone or anything. You can be as angry as you like. As long as you have the discipline to build faith for your Parisian Penthouse + Penthouse Pet, you will get it. Any beliefs which ACTUALLY interfere with this goal will be dealt with and overcome by faith building along the way.  Forgiveness and whatever too.

You can be angry and resent at many things. But if you have issues that relate to the particular thing you are trying to manifest, it's going to be hard.

What I mean is things will represent a symbol for you, patterns. And you may already have a negative pattern.

For example, you may want a Penthouse but, at the same time, when you were little, you keep hearing your parents say it's best to have a modest, low-key life in order to be happy. So you will create the idea that "money and luxury is bad", develop a negative relationship with money, and see a symbol of "If I want this luxury I'm bad" with the Penthouse.

yes, you can still manifest it by continuous meditation, but it will take longer.

Instead, what I do is write the things I want, visualize at night, and, also, every morning, forgive the stories I have that are telling why i can't have something.

So, you can have it both ways.


Forgiveness and cleansing practices will erase subconscious limiting beliefs and create new, empowering beliefs that will help you have everything you want.

By consciously forgiving through meditations, you go straight to the core of your problems.

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Thanks for the responses, everyone. Another reason why I wanted to share this story was to also open up a discussion regarding LOA.

I remember a member here saying how LOA is simple, but not easy.

 that was me... at least I wrote it a couple of times but no one ever responded to this :))

last time on the 5th of march:

Indeed it was! I just remembered now that Desideratum was the one I was actually thinking about. He had a good analogy of LOA being like lifting something heavy or working out. It may be difficult at first, but the more you do it, the easier it becomes.

I've always thought that I'd like to see you return and dole out wisdom again, in fact just a few weeks ago I thought this and here we are.

This could be considered a success story. I've been away from this forum for over 2 years. You thought about this a few weeks ago. Last week, I was thinking of coming here to share this story and I did yesterday out of my own "free will". Your thought just created your reality  ;)

Did I take any “Inspired Action”? No. Did I try to get into alignment with my desire, detach, let go, etc? Absolutely not.

Well...Yes you did get into alignement with your desire, because you felt it every night, you dived in it every night. And yes you did let go. You let go of the doubt, by soaking your subconscious in your desire you let go of the «what if it doesn't happen?».

Your success story is amazing, but you cannot say that the only thing to do is follow Neville's advice and let the other go. All these teachers, mentors have their own way of explaining things, and what may resonate with you may not resonate with others. Some will believe in Neville's work and have great success, others in Abraham's teachings (just their name because Neville is the one you are preaching about, Abraham the one you are «condemning») and have great success too. So let's not take sides ;)

I really like your story and the insight you are giving, but I just wanted to point out that in our uniqueness, one specific process or way to do things may not work the same for everybody (just as a diet will not give the same results depending on your body type).

In any case, I couldn't agree more about mental discipline!! Things don't happen overnight, persistence is the key.

Thanks for your comment :)

But I should've been a bit more clear on something. So my apologies. When I was referring things like inspired action, getting into alignment, detaching, etc, these are taught by many LOA coaches and teachers, but they do nothing but confuse people, especially newcomers. I wasn't only referring to Abraham, but let's use her as an example.

Now when I was on these forums a while back, "letting go" confused LOTS of people. They were confused because they were told things like letting go of the desire itself. You have to not care about it or not want it. How can you not care about something you desire? The term itself just confused too many people. Yes, you're correct in how I let go though. I did let go of those thoughts of not having it, the doubts, etc, and not the desire. I let thought of being in LA sink into my subconscious mind to the point where it eventually felt real and believable. Then things happened the way they did. But what exactly does getting into alignment mean? Or being in the vortex, as Abraham would say ;)

My problem I've had with her and many other LOA teachers/coaches is how they go about it. They preach the LOA as if it's some new age spiritual philosophy, when it's just really a law of physics. Let's say I followed Abraham's teachings and somehow I didn't end up in LA. I'd probably be told that I was too attached. Or I don't know what I really want or how the universe has something better me. That to me just justifies failure to achieve my desire. My failure would actually be a lack of mental discipline and persistence. I've actually been told in the past, when I was new to LOA, things like I didn't know what I wanted or the universe knows what I truly want when I wasn't successful with something.

Now my success doesn't make me an expert on the subject, but people having lots of LOA success doesn't make them experts either. That's why I also mentioned reading up on how our subconscious minds work. The Neville Goddard video's are good examples. I'll explain something else regarding those 2 videos. Let's use my story here as the example of going to LA.

We all know what we want (a pay raise, an ex-lover, a billion dollars, etc). Knowing what you want is not enough. Feeling and seeing what you is want you're supposed to do in your mind. As Neville said, "Think from it, not of it". In my story here I wanted to be in LA. Let's assume though that I actually wanted to be in New York, but slept every night as I was in LA. Even though I wanted to go to New York, I'd still somehow end up in LA because my feeling of reality was of being in LA, and not New York.

The ladder experiment video is a perfect example of how our subconscious minds work. The guy was told to not climb a ladder. He had notes and reminders every day to not climb a ladder. In a way, his "want" was to not climb a ladder, but in his mind prior to sleep, he imagined climbing a ladder and seeing and feeling it to be real. And look at what happened? ;)

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*Note to all readers: this is a post that was written by Moonlight Concerto, not by Anna1408:

I've decided to start a new thread based on comments and responses that came in over here :


The subject is meaty enough to stand alone, imo.


Adam does not understand the difference between the conscious and the subconscious mind. He does not even understand where thoughts come from. He is telling everyone a thought by thought countering conscious mind method is the same as subconscious faith. A little examination reveals that it is not.

[ Lets ONLY focus on tough situations with strong attachment like ex back situations. After all, if something works for that, it will work for anything. ]
Conscious thoughts come from beliefs in the subconscious mind. And how did that belief get there? A thought about something you picked up from somewhere else, or encouraged by other beliefs related to what you're now thinking about, gets associated with a negative feeling, is repeated over and over again in your head, and then forms a belief about that specific object.

Subsequent to that, "spontaneous" thoughts from that subconscious belief bubbles to the surface and we become aware of it at other times.

You can counter that negative belief in the same way that it got there in the first place, by countering each and every negative thought with a "hey just allow the universe to deliver this to you" thought. That will take such a long time to counter the underlying subconscious negative belief and all its friends. Yes, not only will you have to counter that negative belief specific to that object, but also beliefs related to the general environment about it. For instance you'll have to counter " this guy doesn't look like he will make an decent offer on my house" as well as " the market for houses is now depressed", etc.

Neville's brother was a victim of this substandard method. There's a famous story about how Neville's family came to own a particular building in Barbados - their first major business success. This happened before Neville became an expert in the LOA. The brother would stop by the building on his way to and from work every day, and imagine his family's name on the building. This was a building that his father had been cheated out of by other business partners. Imagine the attachment in that situation. What happened ? He got the building in 24 hours from the start of conventional physical actions to its successful conclusion, when someone offered to buy it for him at interest at an auction taking place that day.

Sounds good right? Now...how long did he take to get to that crucial 24 hours? It took him 2 years. 2 years. TWO YEARS. Uh huh.

Countering a single thought is not the same as countering an entire subconscious belief system.

Take a look at the first 10 minutes of this clip, an interview with Neville's student :

See how quickly the nightly method, or a direct subconscious mind reprogramming method, will work. I bet if Neville's brother knew about this, he would have had that building within 2 MONTHS instead of 2 years. Why? Because direct reprogramming of the subconscious mind works much faster to change subconscious beliefs compared to conscious countering of each conscious thought. If he had used this method faithfully every day just like he did with the conscious mind method, he would have had something like 6-10 choice properties in the same 2 years, instead of just 1.

This is the reason why Adam, though claiming to be successful in the LOA, is not now a multimillionaire who hobnobs with the rich but not necessarily famous, and does not have a staff of 42 people to run his businesses and personal affairs. He does not have rock solid faith even after so long. I mean, if you really WERE good at the LOA, how long would it take to get you to $5 million and 4 key personal assistants and general managers for yourself and your businesses?

And that's because he is using a very inefficient method,  a conscious mind based method to build that would take him 6-10 times the years needed to get there.

Adam seems intelligent - we have all read his posts - but we have mistaken his pithy eloquence for genuine IQ. Proof ? He's the guy who happened to have a direct experience of God which resulted in his friend's mom being healed of cancer/flipped into a reality where she has no cancer, and then FORGOT TO MENTION THAT LITTLE DETAIL ABOUT JESUS in the course of his writings, until MUCH LATER.

" Oh I got on the bus and I just happened to sit next to Jesus himself. God was one of us! What's on the telly, luv? " Clearly the mark of an LOA expert. That's why he recommends that people use a conscious mind method for difficult targets. Right on.

This is also why his exes come back to him 1-2 years later, long after he's stopped wanting and thinking about them, and he actually cites this here as proof that he's GOOD at LOA.

If Adam was actually good at it, and actually decided to brag about it (the two can come together, no problems), it COULD look like this :

And he MAY teach something like this :


And he MIGHT say something like this :

She even says the word "allow" once or twice ! :)

No mother can heal her child of cancer using Adam's "allowing" method. Do you have a child? A niece or nephew? Now imagine that kid being diagnosed with terminal cancer, and you saying " its nice if the healing happens but if it doesn't and this child dies, then that's Gods will". That is what allowing is all about if you read the definitions of it on the web (instead of Adam's distorted rewording of faith. ) This is the same as modern Jews and Muslims saying "its all God's will" and these are considered fatalistic religions for a reason.

But many parents have fixed this exact situation by going to God and demanding a solution. Demanding is not the same as allowing and will never be.

This is total faith, and you actually only need it for a split second to heal cancer, and many ordinary unfaithful people also do stuff like that in times of crisis. That said, it is nice to have it all the time which is why you must start with and stick to the correct methods of building faith.

This is the same total faith that allows you to ask for a specific object, or person, or experience, and by a certain specific time, and even through a certain specific way, and if you like, over and over again.

Have you ever wondered why an infinitely capable universe needs you to trust its intelligence and leave things up to it ? Sounds real dumb, doesn't it? It can deliver the goods to you in the most inconvenient way to you if you have the faith for that. Those pornstars of LOA (to coin MC's term) talk about letting the universe decide the time, place and manner of your stuff because they know nothing about true faith, and they can say something unprovable like“ you must’ve not let go, you didn't trust” to anyone who complains they didn't get something.

Notice, Jesus did not say "Father, if it is your will, let Lazarus rise, let this man see, let that man walk, let that woman be healed" He said "thank you father" etc. One was given on the spot, targeted, precise on time delivery.

This is also why allowing as an introductory method will never get you to the point where you can heal anyone's cancer on the spot. Its very ethos is that it is up to the universe.

Allowing as a method works ......ONLY AFTER REPEATED SUCCESS WITH LOA, to the point where you have such implicit faith in the universe/God that you simply choose the solution to any problem and stop thinking about it, because it will surely happen as it has dozens of times before. You may meet someone who talks about allowing and you'll ask him " Brother, you just have faith why do you need to invent a new word and complicate things around it? Is it because you're working out your rejection of organised religions which tortured you in childhood, or you simply lack understanding?"

Only dedicated building of faith will gradually make it total faith in the end. Allowing will never get you to total faith: And allowing requires you to change your personality. Building faith doesn't only requires hard work, which should be part of your personality anyway. Allowing is a value judgment. Building faith is unconditional.

People who live their lives allowing the universe to send them good things, will receive some good things, but they will never be able to slaughter thousands like was done by the Jews in the Old Testament. Do you think they are using different principles ? Do you think Joshua allowed God to stop the sun so that he had enough daylight to kill his enemy? No, he demanded it in total faith and it was done unto him. And of course when you get there you don't need to slaughter thousands. You can use it for your own personal goals.

If Adam feels that allowing and permission slips are the truth, then he must answer how it worked for the Israelites who, in the heat of battle used God to demolish the enemy violently. I suspect his answer will be that that stuff is not true, is legend, etc. I'd like to see him look at Moses and say " Dude, what are you babbling about, you actually ALLOWED God to part the Red Sea ! ".

The Bible talks about faith and faith and faith and faith and there is a good reason for that. You either listen to the Bible on faith, or you can listen to Adam on allowing.

[Please note, you don't have to believe in the Bible's value system of right and wrong. This only relates to LOA faith moving mountains and money to your front door. ]

So if you take the path of allowing, after two years, you'll still be on the forums talking about how smart you are when you've missed the fact that Jesus/God was a critical element in your friend's healing from cancer, even years after the incident happened. This is no different from people getting the odd miracle and being unable to explain why or replicate it intentionally. And you will still insist on needing proof of performance when you're asked to debate on the facts of truth, because you don't know the truth and you know that what you know can't stand up to scrutiny, and you are too insecure to handle that.

If anyone had true faith, they would be multi millionaires with everything in life together (and not simply talking about going on an ideal date one month after you imagined it) working actively to save the world efficiently. Your neighbourhood may not need saving but just logon to cnn.com and you'll see another neighbourhood that does. Or you will be teaching people to do this, writing books, preaching, or supporting others doing so from behind the scenes. You won't be on forums stroking your edick and bragging about the toys you've made with LOA.

Being able to do things consistently, in the heat of continuous battle, is mastery.

Some children are taught to ride bicycles by fixing training wheels to the rear wheel, so they can't fall.  They will not be able to ride their bicycles too fast, and turn too quickly, either, and will develop habits and behaviour which prevent them from riding a normal bike later. They will never be able to grow up to ride motorcycles. Other kids are taught to ride by giving them a 2 wheeler just tall enough for them to stop a fall with their feet, but no training wheels. They can fall if they are not too careful. What happens? They keep trying and working at it, and suddenly snap into a natural balance, can't explain why it happens, learn to ride and feel like they are flying, and eventually have no trouble balancing on a heavy motorcycle. And they can certainly learn to handle the motorcross of life itself.


So, let me sum up, for clarity for you and for me.

1. Desire alone is enough to move mountains. Desire is a non-relativistic force (this is a relativistic universe). It existed before this universe, just like God existed before this universe. Desire is the force, and imagination is the mold, by which God creates everything. The more time you spend with God or Godly people, the more you create in this way. Its that simple.

2. If you don't want to be Godly and yet wish to move mountains consistently, subconscious faith needs to be mixed with your desire. Unless you're born with unshakable faith (and some people are), that faith needs to be deliberately built to get to that level. We have often picked up negative beliefs from childhood on, and reinforced those beliefs with negative experiences, so our subconscious mind is largely negative. The solution is to do the work needed to effectively reprogram the subconscious mind with faith.

3. There are fast ways and slow ways to rebuild subconscious faith. Every way gets faster with practice. Obviously its better to practice faster ways from the very beginning.

4. Every thought is a symptom of a subconscious belief. This is not precisely true in every case, but is a very accurate working assumption.

5. Responding to every conscious thought with conscious faith, is a very slow way of reprogramming the subconscious mind. If you happen to possess some NATURAL TALENT to do this (just like AishuLOA creates quickly by just acting as if, a difficult conscious mind method), that's nice, but it doesn't mean its an universally fast way. Allowing, permission slips, affirmations, all of these are conscious mind methods. They have a poor track record of success across the board.

6. Direct subconscious reprogramming methods such as alpha meditation, the nightly method (same as the morning method), and self hypnosis, and others, are simple ways for anyone to reprogram the subconscious mind without any talent, but just work alone. They have been proven over 100 years worldwide and with people of all educational levels. This is an objective observation.

7. Believing that the universe will give it to you, and then consciously allowing for it with each negative conscious thought which appears, must FIRST require the subconscious belief that the universe will give it to you. You get there by programming it in directly.

8. Letting go and letting God. Most people focus on letting go and essentially stop there. This is failure, quitting, giving up, losing, loss, defeat and exhaustion. Letting God is subconscious faith in God to get the job done for you. The whole phrase means having total faith in God to do something that you accept you can't do yourself with your human abilities. The most important part of the phrase is of course, the bit about faith.

9. When you quit on something, you MAY step away from it so completely that it is completely absent from your mind. This means all mental forces, both positive and negative, cease broadcasting to the universe, as they have no subject in front of them to pay attention to and 'talk' about. Then, your latent native desire alone persisted just a tad, and it came back to you. Remember #1 above : desire alone is enough to create reality. However, nothing mental must be involved.

10. Most people who give up (or 'let go') do not get what they desire, and even then, not consistently. Why ? They still believe in probability, at their core. If you grew up that way, that's in there for sure. This too is a general thinking that will be replaced by repeated success with faith for repeated objectives, into possibility thinking. [ This point edited in for clarity from earlier thread. ]

11. Some brains, analysis, and a dedication to understanding the truth regardless of bias, is required to sieve out the real facts of reality creation from the stuff that LOA pornstars and talented ignorami spout on the internet. This is our personal responsibility and not anyone else's. If we fail, then you will believe a different set of wrong beliefs, and mistake someone else's natural talents for universally applicable facts. This will cost you time, money, and motivation.


When you have total faith, you know you have everything, and then you seek to share it with everybody. I don't know why, but it generally tends to work that way. It doesn't seem to be a rule or a value system just something that happens naturally. Maybe its because, your ultimate personal insecurity - that you can lose something that is important - is totally gone. When I get there, and I surely will because I have faith in myself, (or maybe I'm allowing myself to have faith in myself. loll) I will be sure to tell you guys how it was for me.

p.s. Hey good post eh? I must agree with Willow. We women are the ones who know everything. We just pretend to be blond at times - because its fun to see the guys prancing around like male peacocks thinking they are smart, and some of them look Chippendale good while doing that  (with enough glasses sorry bottles of wine, this will surely also apply to Adam).

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