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What is the quickest way to change believes?
« on: September 18, 2011, 10:29:23 AM »
What is the quickest way to change believes you ever used?

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Re: What is the quickest way to change believes?
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2011, 10:47:08 AM »
Well there are a ton of methods to change beliefs.  The quickest one depends on what works for you.  What it all comes down to is reprogramming the subconscious.  It is usually advised to use several diffirent techniques.  Vision boards, affirmations, gratitude statements, subliminal recordings, and meditation are a few.  I am sure there will be more posts to fallow that will expand on it better.  Hope that helps some though.  If you look around the forums you can find info on all of these and more.

What beliefs are you trying to change? 

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Re: What is the quickest way to change believes?
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2011, 11:07:39 AM »
It's kind of I'm trying to attract millions of money, but the believes is 'I don't like some rich persons because___', or 'I not deserve it because I'm not ___ enough', or 'I'm not good at this'.

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Re: What is the quickest way to change believes?
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2011, 11:22:08 AM »
one place to start is to say the opposite of everything you just listed and these are your affirmations.  write them down and say them right after you wake up and then right before you sleep.  I like rich people because they have the ability to give to others financially.  This would change your belief about rich people.  Also find rich people that do good.  There is a "self help" community full of millionaires that constantly give back and do good.  Tell yourself why you deserve it, not why you dont.  What ever you arent good at, give it a shot.  Learn it.  Tell yourself you are good at it.  Visualize yourself being good at it.  Visualization is a strong tool in your belt.  Visualizations are so strong, that just about every professional athlete visualizes being the best at what they do.  Visualize everything you want.

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Re: What is the quickest way to change believes?
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2011, 11:23:35 AM »
When you experience a situation or imagine it in your mind as it happens to you ask the question what would i have to believe is true for me to have this experience or have this feeling than be silent and you will get the answer but this might not be the core belief so keep going until you find it when you find it it would suddenly appear unlogical then use your imagination to redifine it how you want. It is that easy of course if you do not have a overriding belief that it cant be that easy :>.

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Re: What is the quickest way to change believes?
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2011, 11:56:02 AM »
Thank you 2thetop and V1ctorious. I'll try them next time they pop up ,sweep it outa my mind, and receive more abundance!  ;D

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Re: What is the quickest way to change believes?
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2011, 05:38:22 AM »
Hi,

I'm going to take a risk here because I genuinely do know the answer - but you don't know me, so you'll have to decide whether to trust me or not, okay?

Right.  We get hung up Sooooooo much on this belief changing thing - and it just ain't necessary!  What you need to change is the way you FEEL and you can do that in a heartbeat.  If you are not conscious of a thought or a belief it isn't putting out any energy that's affecting your reality!

Worrying that you might be holding onto old and/or subconscious beliefs - the worry is affecting your reality!

Please get this; it is totally freeing once you do.

So, how do you change the way you feel?  Easy!  Here are a few suggestions:

  • Think of the friend who makes you laugh the most
  • Think of the last intimate moment you had! 
    • Change your body language - uncross your legs or take a deep breath.  Better still ...
      SMILE  ;D

    Don't be fooled by the simplicity of this.

    Your beliefs don't mean diddly ... unless you believe they do!

    This is a total LOA hang up.  Oh, and how do I know?

    Well, I'll give you two references.

    1. Abraham Hicks say so.
    2. I just published a whole book on the subject.  I don't know if I'm allowed to put the link in here, but if you want to take a look at it, you can put my name into Amazon.com and you'll find one of the books there you can look inside.
    (I signed this post with my full name).

    Hope that helps,

    Trevor Emdon.

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Re: What is the quickest way to change believes?
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2011, 11:46:42 PM »
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Your beliefs don't mean diddly ... unless you believe they do!

This is a total LOA hang up.  Oh, and how do I know?

Well, I'll give you two references.

1. Abraham Hicks say so.2. I just published a whole book on the subject.  I don't know if I'm allowed to put the link in here, but if you want to take a look at it, you can put my name into Amazon.com and you'll find one of the books there you can look inside.(I signed this post with my full name

Here's what Abe Hicks says about limiting beliefs :

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Is It a Limiting Belief?
Do you know that the only thing that can ever hold you back is your own limiting beliefs? Now, what is a limiting belief? A limiting belief is a belief that contradicts your desire. That's it. Well, how did you get those beliefs? You just picked them up along your physical trail, and now you drag them everywhere you go.

Do you do it deliberately? Do you say, "I think I will carry limiting beliefs around with me, to keep me from thriving, to keep me from being clear minded, to keep me from being safe, to keep me from being well, to keep me from being prosperous. I think I will just pick through the rubble of physical human experience, and I will just gather up a whole parcel of things that don't serve me well. And I'll carry them around and pass them on from generation to generation, and I'll make my life miserable with them and, hopefully, I'll pass them on to my children who will do the same."? It's not like that at all, is it? Not one of your limiting beliefs did you pick up deliberately intending to do yourself or someone else harm. You did not do any of this in a deliberate way, you did it in an indeliberate way, because you did not understand the power of your emotions. You did not believe that feeling good meant that it was good for you.

It does not matter how you picked up these limiting beliefs. The only thing that matters is that you recognize that the negative emotion is pointing them out to you. Negative emotion is saying to you: You're holding a belief that is thwarting your light from shining. It's thwarting the God Force or Creative Life Force that is naturally being drawn through you.


Please stop giving erroneous information to members here,  "oh this is easy, this is simplistic,  this LOA is child's play..."  The principles of LOA are easy, but it's not fair to make everything sound like a cake walk, just to get your book sold on Amazon. you can't just FEEL good because you decide to, there's an emotional scale that you move up on step by step, which equals ridding yourself of limiting beliefs.

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Re: What is the quickest way to change believes?
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2011, 05:28:36 AM »
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Please stop giving erroneous information to members here,  "oh this is easy, this is simplistic,  this LOA is child's play..."  The principles of LOA are easy, but it's not fair to make everything sound like a cake walk, just to get your book sold on Amazon. you can't just FEEL good because you decide to, there's an emotional scale that you move up on step by step, which equals ridding yourself of limiting beliefs.

Katie,

I appreciate your point of view.  But the Abraham quote you have published, having read it to the end, seems to me to concur exactly with what I said.

I have not used the words "simplistic" or "child's play" anywhere in my posts.  I can only speak my truth.  It took me many, many years of practice, study and real heartbreak and heartache - including more than once tossing the whole LOA thing out of the proverbial window because my life was not working out - before the pennies finally dropped and life turned around for me - from love to finances and opportunities and "coincidences" too numerous and at times "miraculous" to mention.

I earned the right to write a book!  I don't make my posts lightly and most certainly NOT with the intention of selling anything.  Equally however, if I think what I have spent years and sweated blood to put together in book form might help someone, I'm going to tell them it's there.  Wouldn't you?  (I'm not likely to re-write 310 pages on this forum, am I?)  I'm very proud of my book!

I do not think the LOA is simplistic because people are not simplistic.  But the principles are - and I found some keys to applying them - having come through the same mire and muck as many people here on this forum - that makes life a joy and which are genuinely easy to apply.  But even in my book I took 310 pages to get that message over - so I know there's a lot of human stuff that gets in the way of making it easy.

Please notice that a lot of people are thanking me for the posts I'm making - they are anything but sales pitches!  (If I was going to do that I'd just say "I know the secret - it's in my book if you want to know what it is" and leave it at that!)

I don't think I've got everything right nor have I thought of every possibility.  So I'm here to learn as much as to give back.  But, with respect, your repeated message that the LOA isn't easy ... might make all the people who aren't getting the results feel better because they're in a large club, but it isn't going to change their results is it?

Let's give people some hope!  I'm not here to make a quick buck.  Geeze, it took me until I was 55 to publish one book - and I only wrote it once I was sure I had something useful, inspiring and personally tried and tested to say.  That hardly makes me a pushy sales type, does it?

I appreciate that your intentions are well meant, Katie, but please don't jump down my throat quite so fast.  You have based your comments on the assumption that I am only interested in personal gain.  If that were the case then, as I'm sure you realise only too well, I'd only attract others who were out for their own ends too, wouldn't I?

Why can't this be a win-win?

And can we be friendly if not actually friends?

Thanks for thinking about all of that.
Trevor.

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Re: What is the quickest way to change believes?
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2011, 12:09:22 PM »
With respect Trevor (and I say this as someone who enjoys your posts, thinks you have useful insights, and enjoys the debates around some of them), you keep saying that you've published a booked, using phrases like "I earned the right to", etc, as if this somehow proves something - but anyone can publish a book. I know, because I've published a few myself. It doesn't mean that your insights have no value - to the contrary, I think they do - but the fact you have written a book is in no way proof of this.

With respect to Katie's point, I think this may be a case of genuine differences between people. She says you can't just choose to be happy, you say you can. Maybe some people can and some can't. Or maybe everyone can, but it's not as easy for some people to see how it's done. I know I fall into that latter category, and I used to find it incredibly frustrating when I would read or be told things like, "You can choose to be happy". I didn't know how. I learned how, eventually, but the method I learned was not straightforward, and I'm not sure I would have worked it out for myself. And it was no more as simple as "choosing" than learning to ride a bike is a matter of "choosing". It took some practise. Once I learned how, it was easy, but until then, no.

I was actually brought up with LOA (although it wasn't called that back then), so I've had several decades to ponder this now. This exhortation to "be happy" is not as simple or as universally helpful as you think it is. This is how I was raised, and it really did me no good. Because I didn't know back then how to find that genuine happiness inside myself, I simply squashed down negative feelings. But they were still there, and they still had a negative impact. It induced a sort of manic-depression. And in the depressive phases, you would still hear me saying things like, "I don't know why I can't be happy, everything in my life is wonderful". And in the manic phases...

So, unless you know how, the advice to simply "choose to be happy" isn't necessarily that good. For people who can do this, it may seem baffling. They can genuinely choose, and can't believe or understand that others can't, or haven't yet learned how. It's like, when I was in school, and we were given a bitter substance to taste. It turns out that some people cannot taste it - it's genetic. To those of us who could, this was baffling - "What, you can't taste that? It's so bitter!!". Same thing with this happiness thing I think. For people who can simply choose to be happy, they are baffled by people who say they can't - they think it is wilful, they just don't get it. But now that i've been on both sides of the fence, I can tell you it's true. Some people just don't know how to be happy. I suspect that most can learn - and learn how to find genuine happiness, not just to squash down the negative stuff and pretend until it bubbles up to bite them on the butt again. But for those people, simply saying "Pretend until you can" is bad advice. I know this from experience, because I spent over 40 years doing just that, and it didn't work for me.

Just, appreciate there are differences - we aren't all the same. What works for you may work for 60 or even 80% of people (or maybe it doesn't, and they are all doing the same squashing thing I was doing), but others may need a different approach.

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Re: What is the quickest way to change believes?
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2011, 12:57:29 PM »
Thanks Ginny, great post.

Trevor, sorry if you got the impression that I'm acting unfriendly. Having a difference of opinion is not jumping at someone's throat.

I disagree with you, yes I do. Because when you say things like, to feel good, just uncross your legs and smile... excuse me, but that IS simplistic.

I'm 48. I am now very successful with LOA. I worked through my limiting beliefs with EFT. Of course I was smiling as much as I could. But that was not enough. When you're 48 years old, you just don't get rid of negative thoughts in the blink of an eye. May I add that I was orphaned when I was a very young, and lived in many foster homes....My life was hell and it was hell from my earliest childhood. I had to rid myself of 48 years of negative thought patterns, to learn how to meditate, to let go, to allow, to believe, to increase my Faith and keep it on top level, to ask, believe and receive, to learn about gratitude, about upstream & downstream, to find happiness within myself for the first time in my entire life....to LOVE myself for the very first time in 48 years .......and so on and so forth. It was no tea party. It's a never ending task, because you never cease to grow.

I was not able to jump the emotional scale, and say Oh, I'm happppyyyyyyyyyyyy ! It would have felt fake, because it was fake.


It took me some time, and some real effort. But I did it.

What I dislike in your posts, is this it's so easy attitude you have. It may be easy for some, it all depends on your own personal life experience. Maybe I would be more comfortable with your threads if only you could stop making generalities and using catch-phrases that allow yourself alot of leeway to change your meaning to suit whatever discussion results.

You wrote a book, good for you, I have no doubt you have good intentions. But what does :
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mean ?

Many people appreciate your threads and that's no problem to me. We are all different, and what suits one person doesn't necessarily suit another.
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Just, appreciate there are differences - we aren't all the same. What works for you may work for 60 or even 80% of people (or maybe it doesn't, and they are all doing the same squashing thing I was doing), but others may need a different approach.






 

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Re: What is the quickest way to change believes?
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2011, 06:18:36 PM »
Back to the OP, I would have to say two "fast" (notice my quotation marks) things you can do are to actually welcome the change you wish to enjoy.  Quite a few folks want money while holding a subconscious hate for it, and the people that have it. 

From personal experience, my first step to getting my shit straight was expressing gratitude for the smallest things, which are actually quite large if you think about them.  Get to wake up in the morning?  Many people today won't have that.  Nice sunset?  Great!  Gloomy weather?  Great!  You have eyes to see it!  I think you get where I am going with this.  Good luck.

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Re: What is the quickest way to change believes?
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2011, 08:19:53 AM »
Trevor Emdon
I do believe that the modus operandi towards a fertile platform for manifestation
is the mood of the mind.
I believe that there is a system to this excercise.
Like a regimen towards slimming....the diet, the pilates program, the detoxification thing,,,etc, etc.
So, in order to become a manifesting i pad and get into the wi fi position there is a system.
I feel good when I think of my first love encounter. And I bask in it for the time of it's thought in my mind.
I feel good when I see my first fight with the bully in school...I won the wrestle.
I feel good about the first sexual encounter with a woman who I paid to experience sex with. I bask in this
rememberance and the way she treated me as if I was the king of Organza.
I feel goos in the experience of getting my first 2000 Dollars as an event manager executive.
I feel good about caring for a blind man to cross the road in heavy traffic.
I feel good.....

All said and done I now ask questions.......to the forum.

Must I bask in those feel good past thoughts that are puritan in nature and implications.
Or can I feel good and bask in any thought.....like my experience wirth a sex tutor..which I yet believe to be out of this world.
What happens after and whilst I am thinking and feeling good.....?
How will what I want to manifest come about.
I am aware that whist I am in the feel good situation all resistance to a problem or a solution is null and void.
After I finish with the feel good feeling can I go back to the asking of the thing I want manifested.
Please reply.







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