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« on: December 15, 2011, 02:29:38 PM »
Hello everyone,

I'd like to know if anyone else has been in the same situation of being about to manifest something and that it failed unexpectedly at the last minute.
This happened to me quite a few times lately with different wishes and I wonder why is that and how to get past this as this is rather discouraging.

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Re: Things failling unexpectedly
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2011, 02:55:44 PM »
Lilly, was there an underlying fear in your heart/mind, that things would fall apart while on the brink of manifestation ?

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« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2011, 03:10:43 PM »
Lilly, was there an underlying fear in your heart/mind, that things would fall apart while on the brink of manifestation ?

I can't pinpoint what it is Katie, I was feeling rather confident. The last time this happened was for a job, I had received the perfect offer, that corresponded to everything I had wished for..the person had seen my cv and contacted me, was very enthusiastic, the description of the job was exactly what I had prayed for and it failed..It's been the exact same process with my relationship.

It does feel like the universe is taunting me and I feel like giving up because it feels cruel and unfair.. I'm sorry for being so negative today :(

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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2011, 11:14:46 PM »
Rhonda Byrne would have done the world a big favor if she had realistically told people, in her book, just how difficult it was to make The Secret DVD and book. She made it sound like it was a breeze to use the philosophy and manifest her dreams, but there must have been very hard times when she was tempted to give up. She must have met many failures that stopped her cold and, at times, it must have seemed comepletely hopeless, but she refused to give up.

I've learned that true success with the Universe does not come easy and it is not for the most talented. It is for those WHO REFUSE TO PERMANENTLY GIVE UP; and this whether you deliberately use The Secret or have never even heard of it.

The Secret does not reveal that the Universe is Sentient, Conscious & Aware. I've learned from dealing with Mother Nature that this is indeed so. I've also learned, the hard way, that whatever good thing you may get from the Universe MUST be paid for. To the Universe your money is worthless. The currency of The Spirit is SUFFERING FOR DOING GOOD. From empirical experience I've learned that it is the Universe itself who will determine how much you suffer for whatever it is you are determined to manifest and for how long. Whether you like it or not, if you are to realize the fulfillment of a dream manifested into your waking reality prepare to suffer not unlike an Olympic athlete preparing to win a gold medal. So, you can suffer for being a failure in life and accepting a mediocre existence or you can suffer for realizing your dreams. One way or another you will indeed suffer so you might as well prepare to accept whatever sufferings you may endure as a master in that you do your best to be grateful for the good you have already received and the successes you have already had. Oh sure you may completely give up for a day, or a week, a month, or maybe even a year, but if you REALLY want something you will eventually get back on that proverbial horse and keep riding to your intended destination.

I've read that Thomas Edison went through thousands upon thousands of failed experiments before he finally found the right type of filament in order to make the electric bulb that we take for granted today. Mr Edison, apparently, knew in his heart of hearts that he would eventually succeed, but he wore out the patience of those who were working with him. Once can only imagine the tenacity required for a true genius to be successful at manifesting ANY TRULY GREAT THING. Beethoven, Mozart, Leonardo DaVinci, Michelangelo all suffered horrendously in the manifestations of their dreams into their daily reality. It did not come easy.

Do you think it will be easy if you find that you are left with the choice of either pursuing your dreams or surrendering to the will of your so called "friends" who are trying to hold you back? Are you willing to sacrifice the friends who keep trying to make you give up or will you keep your friends and sacrifice your dream? That can be a very tough decision and one, chances are, which has stopped many a believer in The Secret from realizing their dreams. They decided to keep their friends at the cost of the realization of their dreams.

Do you really think Thomas Edison would have tolerated hanging around with people who continually tried to make him give up? I strongly doubt it. If ANY of his associates kept pressuring him to give up he probably cut them out of his life PERMANENTLY.

So, if you are determined to realize your dreams into your daily reality be prepared to suffer tremendously to either realize your dreams or in giving up and surrendering to a mediocre life. And all your 'so called' friends who have chosen the mediocre life will embrace you and welcome you home.  Yes, you will have your friends and the knowledge of what could have been your life if you refused to give up and was willing to sacrifice whatever or whoever was holding you down. Like I said: one way or another you will indeed suffer. I suggest you choose your sufferings wisely and with the intent to take full responsibility for your decision.

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Re: To Lilly
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2011, 02:54:35 AM »
Thank you for your message Joyce! I know giving up is not the solution and I have manifested quite a few things before but lately there seems to be a pattern where as soon as my wish is about to manifest something gets in the way.
It is difficult to believe that it is because of doubt or fear for i shouldn't feel that way when i see the wish is about to manifest and so I don't know what causes this and blocks the situation..









Rhonda Byrne would have done the world a big favor if she had realistically told people, in her book, just how difficult it was to make The Secret DVD and book. She made it sound like it was a breeze to use the philosophy and manifest her dreams, but there must have been very hard times when she was tempted to give up. She must have met many failures that stopped her cold and, at times, it must have seemed comepletely hopeless, but she refused to give up.

I've learned that true success with the Universe does not come easy and it is not for the most talented. It is for those WHO REFUSE TO PERMANENTLY GIVE UP; and this whether you deliberately use The Secret or have never even heard of it.

The Secret does not reveal that the Universe is Sentient, Conscious & Aware. I've learned from dealing with Mother Nature that this is indeed so. I've also learned, the hard way, that whatever good thing you may get from the Universe MUST be paid for. To the Universe your money is worthless. The currency of The Spirit is SUFFERING FOR DOING GOOD. From empirical experience I've learned that it is the Universe itself who will determine how much you suffer for whatever it is you are determined to manifest and for how long. Whether you like it or not, if you are to realize the fulfillment of a dream manifested into your waking reality prepare to suffer not unlike an Olympic athlete preparing to win a gold medal. So, you can suffer for being a failure in life and accepting a mediocre existence or you can suffer for realizing your dreams. One way or another you will indeed suffer so you might as well prepare to accept whatever sufferings you may endure as a master in that you do your best to be grateful for the good you have already received and the successes you have already had. Oh sure you may completely give up for a day, or a week, a month, or maybe even a year, but if you REALLY want something you will eventually get back on that proverbial horse and keep riding to your intended destination.

I've read that Thomas Edison went through thousands upon thousands of failed experiments before he finally found the right type of filament in order to make the electric bulb that we take for granted today. Mr Edison, apparently, knew in his heart of hearts that he would eventually succeed, but he wore out the patience of those who were working with him. Once can only imagine the tenacity required for a true genius to be successful at manifesting ANY TRULY GREAT THING. Beethoven, Mozart, Leonardo DaVinci, Michelangelo all suffered horrendously in the manifestations of their dreams into their daily reality. It did not come easy.

Do you think it will be easy if you find that you are left with the choice of either pursuing your dreams or surrendering to the will of your so called "friends" who are trying to hold you back? Are you willing to sacrifice the friends who keep trying to make you give up or will you keep your friends and sacrifice your dream? That can be a very tough decision and one, chances are, which has stopped many a believer in The Secret from realizing their dreams. They decided to keep their friends at the cost of the realization of their dreams.

Do you really think Thomas Edison would have tolerated hanging around with people who continually tried to make him give up? I strongly doubt it. If ANY of his associates kept pressuring him to give up he probably cut them out of his life PERMANENTLY.

So, if you are determined to realize your dreams into your daily reality be prepared to suffer tremendously to either realize your dreams or in giving up and surrendering to a mediocre life. And all your 'so called' friends who have chosen the mediocre life will embrace you and welcome you home.  Yes, you will have your friends and the knowledge of what could have been your life if you refused to give up and was willing to sacrifice whatever or whoever was holding you down. Like I said: one way or another you will indeed suffer. I suggest you choose your sufferings wisely and with the intent to take full responsibility for your decision.

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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2011, 09:19:49 AM »
As I think of you I keep getting the impression of a beautiful hot-air balloon that get's it's proverbial steam up and rises ready to reach wonderful heights then...it is stopped cold by a thick rope/cable/chain tether that is holding it to the ground. You keep straining against this tether until you lose your 'steam' and begin to slowly sink to the ground. I 'see' in my mind's eye that this process has happened over and over again. I don't know what that tether represents. It could be a person or people. It could be unhealthy habits. It could be a fear of the unknown. Whatever it may be, until you ruthlessly cut that tether so that you can fly free this process of being held to the ground will keep you going through this same routine for the rest of your life or until you finally give up and believe you will never fly free.

It's a state of mind, really

Or so I see, but I could be completely wrong about this. I'm just telling what I keep 'seeing' as I think of you

 As for myself, I Intend to keep getting stronger and healthier until I am so powerful that any hidden tethers in my life will be ripped up from the ground and I'll take the friggin tethers with me as I fly!

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Re: To Lilly
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2011, 04:48:45 PM »
Thank you for your words Joyce and for taking the time to read and answer my message.

The metaphor you use does make sense to me. I am able to manifest things, i have successfully done it in the past. There just seems to be something blocking the process half way through now. The last 2 things I've been trying to manifest and that failed are 2 things that could change my life drastically and so maybe in a way you are right in saying that part of me is afraid of the unknown.

I'd be really interested in knowing about some of the biggest things you have successfully manifested in your life and what technique you used and worked best for you. How do you get rid of fear and doubt, what do you do when you feel low and you current reality fails to reflect the one you wish for?

Thank you!





As I think of you I keep getting the impression of a beautiful hot-air balloon that get's it's proverbial steam up and rises ready to reach wonderful heights then...it is stopped cold by a thick rope/cable/chain tether that is holding it to the ground. You keep straining against this tether until you lose your 'steam' and begin to slowly sink to the ground. I 'see' in my mind's eye that this process has happened over and over again. I don't know what that tether represents. It could be a person or people. It could be unhealthy habits. It could be a fear of the unknown. Whatever it may be, until you ruthlessly cut that tether so that you can fly free this process of being held to the ground will keep you going through this same routine for the rest of your life or until you finally give up and believe you will never fly free.

It's a state of mind, really

Or so I see, but I could be completely wrong about this. I'm just telling what I keep 'seeing' as I think of you

 As for myself, I Intend to keep getting stronger and healthier until I am so powerful that any hidden tethers in my life will be ripped up from the ground and I'll take the friggin tethers with me as I fly!

Best of fortunes to all


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Re: Things failling unexpectedly
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2011, 11:24:16 PM »
What Joyce is saying is right tho.. maybe you had some doubts or fears when you were in the midway of manifesting your desire(s) subconsciously.  I know I have had my moments where I have and it's hard to try to turn that doubt back into a positive thought but what I do anyways is one, come onto this wonderful forum  :D and two, sometimes when i start to doubt things, I start acting like a child.. lol not in anyway of an actual child but more so make believing. I would make believe my visualization and act as if I'm already in my desire and I already have it. So for you example you can act as if you already have the job and get really into (like when a little girl plays with her dolls as if it was a reality) then you actually feel like it is your reality it wipes away the doubts..  it's pretty much acting out the scenario. I know it sounds silly but it works for me  :D and then I'm back to being joyful and happy and being grateful for it. I have played scenarios and it's actually became a reality afterwards.. remember you have to already believe it's already happening and it's yours and just let it go and have complete trust and faith in god/universe. We all have our setbacks of doubts and fears but you have to find what helps you to get back from that.. this forum is one of my biggest help !  :-*
I hope this helps

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Re: Things failling unexpectedly
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2011, 11:59:22 PM »
I've been trying to analyse the reasons behind this as it happened twice on 2 things that were of great importance to me compared to the other things I manifested successfully and I'm trying to find points in common in my behavior these 2 times.
The only thing I can think of is that I became self concious when I started to see that things were happening and something in me blocked it, I think Joyce is right on the reasons, as much as I want those things maybe I am not ready for the outcome or something along those lines. It is paradoxical because I had nothing to worry about or to fear since it was all happening and I was supposed to be happy, somehow I am sabotaging myself haha.


What Joyce is saying is right tho.. maybe you had some doubts or fears when you were in the midway of manifesting your desire(s) subconsciously.  I know I have had my moments where I have and it's hard to try to turn that doubt back into a positive thought but what I do anyways is one, come onto this wonderful forum  :D and two, sometimes when i start to doubt things, I start acting like a child.. lol not in anyway of an actual child but more so make believing. I would make believe my visualization and act as if I'm already in my desire and I already have it. So for you example you can act as if you already have the job and get really into (like when a little girl plays with her dolls as if it was a reality) then you actually feel like it is your reality it wipes away the doubts..  it's pretty much acting out the scenario. I know it sounds silly but it works for me  :D and then I'm back to being joyful and happy and being grateful for it. I have played scenarios and it's actually became a reality afterwards.. remember you have to already believe it's already happening and it's yours and just let it go and have complete trust and faith in god/universe. We all have our setbacks of doubts and fears but you have to find what helps you to get back from that.. this forum is one of my biggest help !  :-*
I hope this helps

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Re: Things failling unexpectedly
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2011, 12:10:47 AM »
To Lilly,

The best I can do is tell you works for me. It may not work for you.

I am the type of person who MUST add my own special twist to the teachings and philosophies of others in order to 'make them my own' and personalize them. I am not good at following someone else's directions to the letter. I must adopt the teachings to my own life if they are to work for me. I must add my own creative input rather than parrot the teachings of others. I don't make a good human parrot. Most obviously do and fit comfortably in the religious and scientific world. I do not.

My tested technique for doing my best to manifest something I perceive as a 'big thing' is to say OUT LOUD to the Universe what it is I want to manifest and give the Universe only two options: either to give me what it is I feel I want OR SOMETHING BETTER. There is NO THIRD OPTION! I feel it is important to say it OUT LOUD  in order for the manifestation to take place in my physical world rather than just in my mind. So, in your particular situation I would automatically thank the Universe for holding off because it has something better in store for me. I am convinced that my personal responsibility in the manifestation process is to live in a manner that inspires the Universe to want to bless my life. Whatever you can think of that you can do to inspire the Universe to want to grant your request I suggest you do it; treating EVERY GOOD THING in your life with extra respect STARTING WITH YOUR BODY. Strive to eat healthier. Strive to exercise more with the intent to improve. Strive to treat everything you own as though you just came from years of living in the gutter and you are tremendously grateful for whatever good thing you have. If you want a better car treat your current car as though it is on loan from God; as everything else you own. In short: whatever you can think of to do that will inspire the Universe, and yourself, into fully believing you truly deserve a better life I suggest you do it.

Remember: it is not what you accomplish that matters. What matters is you PROVE to the universe that you deserve a better life, by the overall way you live, and you can look in the mirror proud of your efforts always ready for forgive yourself for your shortcomings and EVERYONE ELSE equally. You don't necessarily have to tell ANYONE that you forgive them, but YOU MUST forgive them in order to be able to fully forgive yourself. If you cannot forgive yourself you will unconsciously sabotage any effort to manifest a better life. If you secretly feel you are unworthy it is because you are not living a grateful life and you have not forgiven yourself and others equally. Others may be able to love themselves without doing things that prove they deserve to love themselves, but I must PROVE by the way I strive to live that I am worthy to be loved by myself and the Universe.

This is my CURRENT belief, but that may indeed change as more truth is revealed to me

Also, I feel constrained not to get too specific about the things I have already manifested. I sense it is best to keep such things between myself and the Universe as much as possible. Very few know and I don't feel inspired to share those things in a public forum.

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« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2011, 12:12:33 AM »
we all do that lilly lol even I sabotages things in my life without knowing because of my self doubt and start create these things in my mind and then it happens... But You really don't have anything to worry about !  :D  Keep going with the flow of goodness when things are happening no matter what the outcome of it is. The Universe will brings things to us at the right time.. always!

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« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2011, 12:55:11 AM »
Thank you Joyce, you have a very interesting perspective on this!
This is not a technique I have tried, I usually visualize regularly and then it eventually happens, it usually happens when I no longer think about it. I have also tried once to write down a big wish on a piece of paper and put it under my pillow..I just did this on a whim oneday as I thought that just the thought of having it there written and being reminded of it every night before i go to bed and waking  up was enough and it helped me feel that i was actually actively working on manifesting this thing..and It did happen.
I agree that there is not one technique but that you have to find something that works for you!

I respect your desire to not talk about your manifestation however I'd love to know what convinced you/what gave you faith that LOA did work for you. Was that a specific manifestation that convinced you? I would understand that you don't wish to answer this if it delves on too personal matter :)

Yolo7, thank you for your kind words! I'd also love to know what you consider to be your biggest manifestation? :)



To Lilly,

The best I can do is tell you works for me. It may not work for you.

I am the type of person who MUST add my own special twist to the teachings and philosophies of others in order to 'make them my own' and personalize them. I am not good at following someone else's directions to the letter. I must adopt the teachings to my own life if they are to work for me. I must add my own creative input rather than parrot the teachings of others. I don't make a good human parrot. Most obviously do and fit comfortably in the religious and scientific world. I do not.

My tested technique for doing my best to manifest something I perceive as a 'big thing' is to say OUT LOUD to the Universe what it is I want to manifest and give the Universe only two options: either to give me what it is I feel I want OR SOMETHING BETTER. There is NO THIRD OPTION! I feel it is important to say it OUT LOUD  in order for the manifestation to take place in my physical world rather than just in my mind. So, in your particular situation I would automatically thank the Universe for holding off because it has something better in store for me. I am convinced that my personal responsibility in the manifestation process is to live in a manner that inspires the Universe to want to bless my life. Whatever you can think of that you can do to inspire the Universe to want to grant your request I suggest you do it; treating EVERY GOOD THING in your life with extra respect STARTING WITH YOUR BODY. Strive to eat healthier. Strive to exercise more with the intent to improve. Strive to treat everything you own as though you just came from years of living in the gutter and you are tremendously grateful for whatever good thing you have. If you want a better car treat your current car as though it is on loan from God; as everything else you own. In short: whatever you can think of to do that will inspire the Universe, and yourself, into fully believing you truly deserve a better life I suggest you do it.

Remember: it is not what you accomplish that matters. What matters is you PROVE to the universe that you deserve a better life, by the overall way you live, and you can look in the mirror proud of your efforts always ready for forgive yourself for your shortcomings and EVERYONE ELSE equally. You don't necessarily have to tell ANYONE that you forgive them, but YOU MUST forgive them in order to be able to fully forgive yourself. If you cannot forgive yourself you will unconsciously sabotage any effort to manifest a better life. If you secretly feel you are unworthy it is because you are not living a grateful life and you have not forgiven yourself and others equally. Others may be able to love themselves without doing things that prove they deserve to love themselves, but I must PROVE by the way I strive to live that I am worthy to be loved by myself and the Universe.

This is my CURRENT belief, but that may indeed change as more truth is revealed to me

Also, I feel constrained not to get too specific about the things I have already manifested. I sense it is best to keep such things between myself and the Universe as much as possible. Very few know and I don't feel inspired to share those things in a public forum.

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« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2011, 06:45:34 AM »
wait wait wait.  i stoped at the above post that says you have to suffer. you will only have to suffer if that is your belief.  unfortunetly its the beliefs of a great deal of people because society and the media constantly says you have to.  this is not the case.  we are not ment to suffer to receive.  you do have to pay.  its called pay it forward.  you give to others out of the kindness of your heart and you in turn get from the universe.  we cause our own suffering.  when i am on a faster system i will finish reading the post fully.  so i am sorry if i missed something. but you dont have to suffer.

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« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2011, 06:58:19 AM »
I also don't think you have to suffer. I think certain words can carry certain connotations and that suffering implies being a victim. It maybe that we don't always get what we want, straight away but have to overcome challenges to manifest. At the time we may think were suffering but in reality that's just one perception of it. Like when men think they have man flu, when they've actually only sneezed a couple of times!!!!!!

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« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2011, 11:16:25 AM »
ok i just got home.  i can agree with a lot of whats above except the suffering.  it doesnt make sense.  if you attract what you are putting out, why would you suffer unless that is what you are putting out?  I just would like to hear a little more about this point of view.  I have noticed for myself that when things go bad, if i sit down and think about it, i can usually pin point what brought it on.  and its always a negative thought.  when something good comes about its the same thing, i can figure out when and how.  i just manifested a few hundred dollars this weekend and something else that i wanted.  not once did i have a negative thought. 
Sorry to post about this a second time.  i just hate to see people suffer.  i did it for many years and wondered why.  now i do things for others, even when it seems imposable for me to do, and i get a lot of love from random people.
please dont take this as an attack joyce, i know sometimes i come across like that.  i can agree with you on just about everything except that, and that is why i would like to hear more about that point of view. ;D

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  • Purple_Ray: Ava, how are you? I was thinking about you these days:)
    Today at 02:01:35 PM
  • Purple_Ray: Ava, how are you? I was thinking about you these days:)
    Today at 01:59:48 PM
  • Iceman0715: @Pandoram: Hugs & Love, back @ u !!!  ;D ;) :-* :P xoxoxo
    Today at 01:48:43 PM
  • kim786: i want to drink alchole where to go any idea
    Today at 11:48:52 AM
  • kim786: plz help me
    Today at 11:48:26 AM
  • kim786: hello
    Today at 11:48:10 AM
  • alecardenas14: guys please check my new post! its about switchwords for new love! i need your help :) :)
    Today at 11:47:08 AM
  • shawnr22: I know, some people I tell ya lol
    Today at 07:46:37 AM
  • Mr Brightside: Imagine if he put the same energy into other things, guy would be unstoppable
    Today at 07:29:09 AM
  • shawnr22: Mr.B I guess he is that lonely lol
    Today at 07:27:35 AM
  • Mr Brightside: Wow i ban the email,user and IP and the guy comes back. You have any idea how long it must take him to just join back... The energy that guy has is amazing
    Today at 06:54:21 AM
  • fromraintorainbows: hey does anyone here have aim or email or fb or something that we can talk on...i want to ask some things about loa and talk to someone about it 1x1 cause its easyer and i just want to find out more about loa and stuff...thanks! pm me if u can do this so i can give my screenname
    Today at 06:26:37 AM
  • marioska: twice? Did he forget something on the 1st call? haha
    Today at 05:14:24 AM
  • shawnr22: You know it's funny, out of all my friends my ex was the only one to call me twice and wish me happy bday, hmmm that makes me think.
    Today at 03:39:52 AM
  • Serena: :D Sex and the City
    Today at 01:59:47 AM
  • marioska: pandoram*
    Today at 01:24:58 AM
  • marioska: same for you, pandora ;D
    Today at 01:24:49 AM
  • Serena: pandoram: :))
    Today at 12:06:19 AM
  • Serena: >:( so hot here
    Today at 12:02:35 AM
  • Ankur Sancheti: @Truelove: Okey Dokey
    June 19, 2013, 09:42:24 PM
  • truelove: pandoram  :-*  :-*  :-*
    June 19, 2013, 08:40:10 PM
  • pandoram: "Sometimes, people try to expose what's wrong with you, because they can't handle what's right about you."
    June 19, 2013, 08:39:26 PM
  • pandoram: Just wanted to tell all of you that I love you all. You are all great.
    June 19, 2013, 08:38:27 PM
  • truelove: Yeah, forget it Ankur, I was drunk... apparently :P
    June 19, 2013, 08:27:35 PM
  • Mr Brightside: Pretty sure it was the wine talking there Ankur
    June 19, 2013, 07:24:30 PM
  • Ankur Sancheti: Truelove: Not sure in which context is the Logged being referred to. Off the top of my head, as long as you are able to Login we are just good. Aint we! :-)
    June 19, 2013, 06:08:32 PM
  • Serena: sweety9902: :) dont be... You are not alone, we all are here with you :)
    June 19, 2013, 05:24:45 PM

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