Beliefs Don't Matter!

[WizardofWisdom]

I just thought I'd share this insight with you folks ...

Your subconscious beliefs don't matter!  If they're subconscious then you aren't giving them any attention and they have no energy.

Therefore ... no influence on the LOA and what shows up in your life! 

The only beliefs that matter are those you give your attention to - and then all you need to do is notice how they make you feel.  If it's not so hot, look for a new thought!  You have the power!

Hope that helps.

Trevor.

[Ginny]

Well, this is a very encouraging thought, but what leads you to say this?


Very often, if someone hasn't been successful manifesting something, despite having focussed their attention on the desired outcome and done everything "correctly", they are told that they must have some subconscious limiting beliefs.


If this isn't the case, how do you explain when things don't manifest, despite lots of positive concentration and affirmations, etc?

[Katie]

this doesn't make sense.  this is just another catchy line to attract people to buy your products, like your previous post making LOA sound so easy and breezy.

[Katie]

And believe me, I would never read a thing that says "subconscious beliefs don't matter" ! 

[Vicki Christina]

Well emotions matter and beliefs effect our emotions!

[WizardofWisdom]

Hi All,

Well, I seem to have stirred up some healthy debate here!

The point I am making is beautifully expressed by Vicki Christina - emotions matter and they are indeed affected by what you think.  However, your emotions, by that very same argument, cannot be affected by what you are not conscious of thinking!

As to what led me to say it - I heard Abraham say it in answer to someone's question on a live seminar of theirs I have on CD.  It was such a relief - and a breath of fresh air.

I too was often caught in the trap of thinking that I was thinking and feeling positively about something which didn't show up - in fact I did that far too often.  When it didn't, of course I would decide that there must be some subconscious belief that was keeping me and my heart's desire apart.  That is such a "bummer" because then you feel disempowered!  Can you find the belief?  Can you clear it out?  What if there's another one just below the surface, like layers of an onion?

Once I got Abraham's message, it all fell away.  I can only speak for myself, but I was immediately able to own that actually my focus was far more on "what if it doesn't work out?" or something like that, than it ever was on me and the whatever-it-was meeting up.  The big shift came when I finally "got" that all I ever have to do is to feel good - it doesn't even have to be about the issue.  Ask ... feel good ... expect to receive ... receive.

That's it!  In the process of feeling good, "letting go" (another bugbear of would-be LOA practitioners) happens automatically.  It's like saying you're going to email off your job application before popping out to a dance.  Once you're on that dance floor there are no thoughts about "will I get that job?"  You just enjoy your dance!

And now I want to respond to some comments I've had regarding this post.  My intention here is to add value.  The books and programs I have created over the years - and will continue to create and which have positively helped and inspired many people - are written and created with exactly the same intention.  They are also created out of a passion for helping people follow their dreams and they come from more than thirty five years of study, training and some very tough personal lessons.  If people want to buy them I am very happy of course.  And if they don't want to buy them that is equally fine with me.  I do not see anything wrong with letting people know that they exist, however, so I am not apologising for that.  Neither will I apologise for being good at what I do.

My post has stimulated conversation and it is making a few people - myself included - think about this particular very important issue.  If that is not adding value to this forum, (unlike the people I found advertising carpet cleaner when I joined recently), then I don't know what is.

Thanks for reading and responding folks!

Trevor.

[Ginny]

I like that - BUT - how do you explain then the times when you were feeling good and the thing you've requested doesn't come?

[WizardofWisdom]

I like that - BUT - how do you explain then the times when you were feeling good and the thing you've requested doesn't come?

Ginny, the only answer I can give here will be in general terms.  Everyone and every situation will be slightly different.  The short answer is: we always get what we expect.

I have more than once caught myself feeling good IN ORDER to get the thing I want - which, by definition, means I am actually focussing on the absence of the thing I want!  Do you see what I mean?

There's a paradox in here, but the secret is in just feeling good and nothing else - in other words, letting go of the wanting entirely.  (As soon as you say that to yourself or anyone, you haven't let go!)

Look at it this way: If I say to you, "No matter what happens, DON'T think about elephants!"  you have no choice but to think of elephants.  And the more you try not to, the more elephants will intrude on your thoughts!

It's like telling yourself to fall asleep.  You're actually focused on being awake, and so awake you'll stay!

I hope that goes some way to answering your question.

It's really about trust.

Today, for example, my bank balance is very small.  I'm not remotely concerned about that because I'm owed some money and I know that'll hit my bank account on Tuesday.  I easily have enough money to get through til Tuesday.

Now, of course, I can't know for SURE that the money will be there on Tuesday.  I feel as confident about that as I do that the sun will set in the west tonight - but the earth could be hit by a giant meteor and start spinning the other way I suppose!

But I do trust both of those things and many others besides.

When you trust that once you have asked the universe for something that the goods are to all intents and purposes on the FedEx truck and all you have to do is wait for delivery, you can just relax, (feels good), and get on with your life, (feeling good).

Then it will come.  Delivery date is not guaranteed, but delivery itself is.

Does that help?

Great question!

Cheers,
Trevor.

[Ginny]

I like that - BUT - how do you explain then the times when you were feeling good and the thing you've requested doesn't come?

... The short answer is: we always get what we expect.

But isn't that the same as saying that there are underlying subconcious beliefs that are limiting your manifestation?

I've seen people on this forum for example, say they've let go (usually relationship, as that seems to be the most popular topic) - but it is quite obvious from everything they say that they haven't.

So, they have a conscious belief that they have let go, but something must be happening subconsciously, because their behaviour does not match what they claim their feelings are.

Do you know what I'm saying?

And I think it is these subconscious beliefs that can sometimes get in the way of letting go, and therefore allowing you to receive the things you've asked for.

[WizardofWisdom]

I like that - BUT - how do you explain then the times when you were feeling good and the thing you've requested doesn't come?

... The short answer is: we always get what we expect.

So, they have a conscious belief that they have let go, but something must be happening subconsciously, because their behaviour does not match what they claim their feelings are.

It still boils down to the feeling state they're in!  Okay, since you've mentioned relationships, let me give you my personal experience...

I found myself single again in 2001, if you see what I mean.  I thought, a few months later, that I was over my heartbreak.  (I really believed I'd let go.  Still with me?)  I then spent the next four and a half years fruitlessly searching for a new relationship.

Now, Ginny, please believe me when I tell you that at six months I might have conceded that my broken heart had not fully mended, but four years later that was far from even funny!

Here's what I did.  (And this wasn't a conscious "let me invoke the LOA" plan.  It's just what I did).

I stopped looking.  That was the first thing.  I had become a veteran of dating sites and I cancelled all my memberships.  At the same time, I made a conscious decision to just enjoy my life as a single man.  I wanted to find love and happiness, but my agenda was no longer anything to do with that.

This was in 2006, probably not long after New Year - I can't put an exact date on it.

Now get the shift I made.  I simply started enjoying my life as it was.  I can't tell you how many times I've heard Abraham say, "You have to make peace with where you are."  I didn't think about that at the time, as I've said.  I just did it.  It - and I - felt better.  MUCH better.

So now, here I am enjoying my life whatever shows up.  Each day I'm going out into the world happy and carefree.  Do you think that might be attractive energy?  Do you like being around happy people?  Who doesn't?

But I promise you, I wasn't doing any of this IN ORDER to find someone.  I just was living my life feeling good each day.

Later that year, in the early autumn, I was doing some business on ebay and got into correspondence with the guy I was dealing with.  We started to enjoy each other's humour and became telephone friends.  We're both British.  At some point he told me about his lovely wife and how happy he was since he met her a few years earlier.  I said she sounded lovely.  He said he had an ex-neighbour who was looking for someone and would I like him to pass my email address onto her...?

We met just before Christmas that year and fell madly in love.  We've been married since 2008 and can't remember a day when we didn't laugh and rejoice in how happy and easy our married life together is ...

Here's one more element that's important to this story.  When I was on the dating sites I met a lot of women in four and a half years.  They were all nice people.  And they were all - every one of them as far as I can recall - afraid of commitment and with some damage to their self esteem.

Although I couldn't see it at the time, guess who else that description fitted?  Yep - yours truly!

Now, my new and lovely wife couldn't be further from that.  She loves life.  She's always "sunny side up."  She's a naturally happy person - and you know what?  She'd had some heartbreaks and some other challenges in her life before we met too - but she never handled them even close to the way the women I was meeting previously did.  She has a strong sense of self belief and a natural trust in the universe, (you should see the LOA bring HER some stuff - and she'd never heard of it as a concept before we met.  She just knows that if she asks for something it'll turn up.  As I did!)

Not only did I meet someone lovely, but I met someone who perfectly reflected the new energy I was putting out.  And it began with talking about a mobile phone with an Englishman on ebay!

Honestly Ginny, I can see what you mean and sometimes there may be a subtle distinction, but here's why this is really important.  (Otherwise it's just an academic point, right?)

If you believe your subconscious is the saboteur then you're sunk.  You can't get at the subconscious or hope to know what's in it because it's ... well ... subconscious!  You could spend a lifetime (or two) trying to dig up all the buried skeletons in your subconscious!

However, if you say, well, I'm not getting the result I wanted so all I need to do is shift the way I'm feeling just a tad, you can do that instantly.  You can just put on some happy music and dance around your kitchen if need be!

It's the energy you're transmitting and never a subconscious belief, because those have no energy attached to them!

It's worked too often for me to be left in any doubt, and all I can say to you is "try it!"

I've written a whole book on this, "The Book Of Being" which you can peek at if you click the link here ... on Amazon.com.

Or check out my signature link - below.  There's a freebie there.

Hope that helps!

Cheers,
Trevor Emdon.

[Vicki Christina]

Ginny, I agree.  This is as we have all discussed in the past about blocks to success in manifesting.  This is just a discussion of semantic differences.   

[WizardofWisdom]

Ginny, I agree.  This is as we have all discussed in the past about blocks to success in manifesting.  This is just a discussion of semantic differences.   

If that is your belief then, as you know, it will also be your reality!

All I know is, I'm getting results - and semantics or not - it was this shift in understanding that opened everything up for me.

I appreciate your comment and that you took the time to respond.  Sincerely, I do.

Cheers,
Trevor.

[angel_star]

Trevor, Firstly I totally agree with your previous topic about LOA being easy. When you said the Universe responds to what we are and not necessarily to what we think it made sense to me. I started using 'I AM' affirmations like 'I am great health' 'I am abundance' 'I am opportunities' etc. I became the desire itself, instead of wanting the desire. And seriously, things are manifesting at great speed! I don't know if it was due to this shift in my approach, but things surely have gotten better.

But this post is very different from what I have learnt in the past. So I do not completely agree that subconscious beliefs do not matter. At the same time, I do not disagree either because I haven't tried just being happy without the 'being happy in order to get something' attitude. I have tried different techniques to change my subconscious beliefs to positive. I am not sure how well they have worked for me. Anyways, for now, before commenting more on this topic I'll first try as you have explained. I'll totally focus on just being happy by myself without worrying what my subconscious beliefs are upto. I'll just enjoy as much as I can, totally ignoring any bad feeling that may creep up occasionally. I'll first try this approach and I shall come back and post my experience Its great that this approach has worked for you. I'll see if it works for me too

[Ginny]

Trevor, I'm not having a go at you, I'm just trying to increase my understanding.

I understand what you are getting at (I think), and yet sometimes I think people get so fixated on the 'must have' that they make happiness a condition of the having, rather than appreciating it for its own sake.

And I have seen what looks like self deception - I know that when I root out my own self-deceptions, things get better, so when I see others engaged in what looks like self-deception, my inclination is to try to get them to look at things another way.

There's a great line in Awareness, by Anthony de Mello, that points out the absurdity of letting your happiness depend on external circumstances. As if we want to say that we refuse to be happy until we have this or that - but how stupid is that? And yet, I sometimes think I see a perversion of this very principle - that people will sometimes insist they are happy when they are not, because to admit unhappiness is a defeat, a fault. And it also means you won't get what you want (in theory). Totally misses the value of happiness for its own sake.

But that's a bit of a digression - my point was that sometimes there is some self-deception going on, where people refuse to acknowledge "negative" emotions, either because they think they are socially unacceptable, or because they think it prevents them from getting what they want. The negative emotions are still there (in this subset I am talking about), they are just repressed. In which case think it's useful to acknowledge how you feel, and see what you can do to get to a better place. Works for me anyway.

[Ginny]

Here's a conundrum for you:

Sometimes, when I am in a really good mood, I choose not to check my email, because I think, "I am in a great mood now, but if I haven't heard back about X, it will bother me, so I won't look just now"

What would you predict would happen in that situation? If beliefs don't matter, the fact that I have some doubt about whether or not I've got the feedback I wanted shouldn't matter, should it? I'm feeling great, and actively choosing an action to just enjoy that good mood. Moreover, I've stated my desire. The only blip in the equation is that I don't have complete belief that I'll hear what I want to hear. But, given that I still feel great, and have clearly stated my desire, would you predict that the next time I check my emails, I'll have got the positive feedback that I wanted? Or do beliefs matter in this example?